Archery grades

[Beardy]

Originally Posted by teknohippy

That's one knackered keyboard.

And you can't type osk.exe into run even!

You could navigate to osk.exe, it's in the windows folder I think.

The OSK can be useful at times like this.

It's an old laptop. I've seen this before on Dells, so I thummped it in just the right place and it's ok again now. Until it breaks again that is

[Orinoco]

If I may post another question under this thread...

Do classifications have to be achieved sequentially.. i.e. 3rd, 2nd, 1st, etc?

Some people I shoot with are under that impression. Thing is there is no mention of that in the SAPS document.

The main reason I ask is I used to shoot as a junior and have been out for 12 years or so before the bug bit again. I know I was classified as a junior although I can't for the life of me remember what I was. As a result of previous experience I have come back in at above 3rd class scorewise. So if I shoot 3 2nd class scores this summer, or possibly 1st if I can get enough longer distance shoots in, can I claim classification at that level? It would seem silly if not I guess, otherwise if someone had a season out due to injury they'd have to start from scratch.

5(d) Bowman, Jnr Bowman, 1st Class, 2nd Class and 3rd Class.
(i) Qualifying Rounds. As shown in Tables 4 - 16.
(ii) Number of rounds. Three.
(iii) Standards. All scores must be shot under GNAS Rules of Shooting, at a meeting
organised by GNAS or a body affiliated to GNAS, or at any associated club target
day. See GNAS Rules of Shooting for conditions of shooting at a Club Target Day.

...is what it says.

And also... 1(b) Initial grading and subsequent upgrading occurs immediately the necessary scores
have been made in the defined year.

So I assume "initial grading" could be say 2nd class for this season providing the 3 scores are achieved??

Ori

[Kae]

Originally Posted by Orinoco

Do classifications have to be achieved sequentially.. i.e. 3rd, 2nd, 1st, etc?

Nope, nadda, not at all, never.

Kae.

[tel]

Originally Posted by Kae

Nope, nadda, not at all, never.

Kae.

agreed - the only time it might disappoint is if you over-stretch at a rose or star event and miss getting your full set!

[Orinoco]

Originally Posted by tel

the only time it might disappoint is if you over-stretch at a rose or star event and miss getting your full set!

and that's gonna happen... not.

Thank you. Is what I thought, wouldn't have been logical. You're either a class or you're not I guess.

[Flying Whale]

As the others said.

For my son (aged 9), his first outdoor round was 1st class. His next 2 were Junior Bowman. At that stage he got his 1st class classification. His next round was Junior Bowman, so he moved to Junior Bowman.

[Trunkles]

Originally Posted by teknohippy

That's one knackered keyboard.

And you can't type osk.exe into run even!

You could navigate to osk.exe, it's in the windows folder I think.

Start- all programs - accessories - accessibilty - OSK

or in C:\Windows\System32

[BowSurfer]

Originally Posted by Flying Whale

As the others said.

For my son (aged 9), his first outdoor round was 1st class. His next 2 were Junior Bowman. At that stage he got his 1st class classification. His next round was Junior Bowman, so he moved to Junior Bowman.

Interesting - I was never sure if the same scores could be re-used for a higher classification after they had been used for a lower one. Unlike the AAS scheme where once a score has been submitted at one level it cannot be re-used for a higher level, so there needs to be some careful consideration of which scores are submitted and whether to use up a good score straight away or wait for another lower one to come along!

[Flying Whale]

Originally Posted by BowSurfer

Interesting - I was never sure if the same scores could be re-used for a higher classification after they had been used for a lower one. Unlike the AAS scheme where once a score has been submitted at one level it cannot be re-used for a higher level, so there needs to be some careful consideration of which scores are submitted and whether to use up a good score straight away or wait for another lower one to come along!

Indeed interesting. I was always told that if you score a round you really should submit it. Not sure if this is an absolute requirement, but I think morally this is what is intended.

(Ignoring the fact of whether it does) the handicap scheme is intended to give an ongoing reflection of your current ability. That way when it comes to handicap shoots all archers should be able to shoot on a level basis. There are I am sure many examples of people who shoot lots and don't submit scores, saving themselves for those tournaments and leagues when shooting way beyond your handicap can make all the difference. I am not going to criticize people for it. If that is what they want, and they want to win, then fine. I just think it is not really in the spirit.

With regard to classifications it is not really a case of re-using scores (although in actuality that is what is happening). It is simply that once you shoot 3 scores at or above a certain level in the year you make that classification. The down side for my son was that because he went 1st class, bowman in 4 rounds he missed out on the certificates and badges for 3rd class and 2nd class.

[BowSurfer]

Originally Posted by Flying Whale

Indeed interesting. I was always told that if you score a round you really should submit it. Not sure if this is an absolute requirement, but I think morally this is what is intended.

Definitely for scoring rounds they should be submitted to the club records officer and included for your handicap. The AAS scheme is quite separate from GNAS handicaps and you have to send in three appropriate scores, not shot on the same day, to get the relevant badge and certificate. It does nat have any effect on h'cap or competitions.