What i've noticed using pin sights

[Stylisht]

I put an arrow through the sight-ring instead of onto the rest with my first sight

Never looked back...

Pin comes off every sight the same way, intentional or not!

[caveman]

my pin dont get in the way of the gold because i aim it at the very bottom of the gold just on the line no arrows in the way no x just a line really works well for me , know shooting very good scores.

[jthain]

I dont have a problem with having a sight pin on my sights as I cant see the bloody thing anyway being old and half blind. All I can see is the ring so I suppose that might be an advantage,

[Mistake]

I've tried loads of differant things... including an open circle... its always back to a pin... i tend to use it was a check before i realease... i use a combination of the circle and the pin to get my aiming picture

[cliveanne]

Originally Posted by BowSurfer

Keeping that focus on the gold is the key. Actual use of the sight is somewhat secondary. You can hit things without having to use sights - ask any barebow archer, or try throwing a ball at something, or watch a darts player - no sights needed but he can get wonderful accuracy and consistency by looking hard at where the 'arrow' is going to go and letting his body work out the whys and wherefores.
I have long held that it is possible to 'think' your arrows into the gold, even from what felt like a poor loose, but the concentration on that important bit of the target was there - or is it just telekinetcs?

The Chinese had this train of thought some centuries ago

[Flying Whale]

Originally Posted by BowSurfer

Keeping that focus on the gold is the key. Actual use of the sight is somewhat secondary. You can hit things without having to use sights - ask any barebow archer, or try throwing a ball at something, or watch a darts player - no sights needed but he can get wonderful accuracy and consistency by looking hard at where the 'arrow' is going to go and letting his body work out the whys and wherefores.
I have long held that it is possible to 'think' your arrows into the gold, even from what felt like a poor loose, but the concentration on that important bit of the target was there - or is it just telekinetcs?

While I don't believe it is possible to 'think' your arrow in to the gold, and I certainly don't believe in telekinetics, I think that when you try to think the arrow in to the gold it has great benefit to the shot.

When you are really, truly concentrating on that small spot in the middle of the gold (rather than just looking at the gold area) I think that
a. your head is much more still
b. you are much less likely to have boiw arm drop, or unwanted bow arm movement
c. the sheer act of concentration makes your conscious mind much less likely to interfere with the sub-conscious making the shot.

Just wish I could actually do it for more than about 10 arrows out of 60!

[Snarkhunter]

Originally Posted by Flying Whale

While I don't believe it is possible to 'think' your arrow in to the gold, and I certainly don't believe in telekinetics, I think that when you try to think the arrow in to the gold it has great benefit to the shot.
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Just wish I could actually do it for more than about 10 arrows out of 60!

Thanks for that FW... I was worried we were one step away from "Use the Force, Luke..."

I have also found focussing on the gold helps. Unfortunately, like you, I have found really focussing every time is not at all easy - I have the blacks and whites (and greens ) to prove it!

[NoAngel]

I use a pin, but most of the time I ignore the fact that its there, when you are shooting at 90m, I can't see how anyone would be able to focus on the boss and on a pin less then 2 foot in front of them (at the same time).

However when I get closer, I find myself using both the loop and the pin, and for indoor, I tend just to use the pin. Agreed if you focus on the gold, then move the sight into line of vision, your shots will become more consistent, but then you shouldn’t really be thinking about "aiming" until you are ready to release the shot.

[Schme1440]

I have used an open ring for many years. Find I concentrate less on aiming and allows my technique to flow better. I use the large beiter ring. At 90mt the whole target is in the ring. All I have to do is center the target in the ring and my group lands around the gold.

What apature you use is personal however I always recomend using just a ring. this seems to give the best results for most people.

[Tarkwin]

I too use a beiter ring...and have found more success with a 12mm indoors than an 8mm..

just about the whole of the red rings fit inside the 12mm which means I don't try to centre on the gold as I do with the 8mm

T.