A quick tuning question

[Beardy]

I've been fiddling Shooting tonight at 25m my arrows were all in a horizontal line around the aiming point. What needs changing (other than the archer!

Ta

[pHz]

horizontal - both sides of point of aim or all to one side ?

slainte : rob

[Beardy]

both sides, even distribution. No, I didn't believe it eithe, but it kept happening until I got tired and then they went ALL over the place

[Kae]

What classification/scores are you shooting beardy?

Kae.

[pHz]

in my limited experience that would suggest something going on with your release or bow hand grabbing ? or your string picture isnt consistent ?

(to be honest youre probably better off waiting for someone more experienced to comment though)

slainte : rob

[Beardy]

Hi Kae, I was shooting high 3rd class scores at 50/40 yds, but then my form went. It's now comming back and tonight I shot better than I have don for 3 or 4 weeks. Only shooting in my back garden though, and I only use an aiming spot, not a target face. I suspect my release just as pHz suggested, but as everything else seems better, I was just checking that there isn't a tuning trick I've missed.

Ta

[Kae]

Originally Posted by Beardy

Hi Kae, I was shooting high 3rd class scores at 50/40 yds, but then my form went. It's now comming back and tonight I shot better than I have don for 3 or 4 weeks. Only shooting in my back garden though, and I only use an aiming spot, not a target face. I suspect my release just as pHz suggested, but as everything else seems better, I was just checking that there isn't a tuning trick I've missed.

Ta

To be honest, get center shot/brace height and a rough button tune and go shoot! You'll gain much more from spending the time shooting than you will tuning.
I didn't bother much with tuning until I was hitting BM scores, then it starts to make a difference (and is frustrating, lol).

Kae.

Try and 'settle in' to a repeatable and comfortable ref point where you're in a reasonable line (get somebody to have a look or video yourself) I'd just have a basic tune (don't get too involved in that yet - but it's handy to know)
As far as your 'loose' goes you might want to think 'relax your hand' while continuing to draw very slowly (at full draw) when releasing the string try not to think 'let go'. Keep a good strong balanced force towards the gold through your bow arm so it stays there until the arrows away, and of course stay with the shot until you hear the arrow hit the target (no peeking)

Try to do the same things every time

Sign up with a coach and that'll speed up the process

best of luck

[geoffretired]

Arrows left and right can be;

string line varying from shot to shot.
varying torque in the bow hand.
varying shoulder alignment.
varying amounts of bow cant.

varying the "Pluck" of the release.(sometimes smooth release other times plucking away from the face, to the side.)
varying the bow arm movement in the follow through.(sometimes collapse right, sometimes hold on the gold, sometimes fly left.)
The first list are things that can be sorted by checking carefully at the appropriate stage of the shot.
The second list requires work on the form, to get closer repetition between the shots.A natural follow through will go a long way to putting both aspects right.

The button isn't very soft is it?

[TWIW]

Originally Posted by Beardy

I've been fiddling Shooting tonight at 25m my arrows were all in a horizontal line around the aiming point. What needs changing (other than the archer!

Ta

A horizontal variation line of arrows is caused by a variation of the arrow/sight/string line.

Assuming a RH archer:

A poor loose will throw your arrows left, but would also tend to cause some vertical variation to. You don't mention this.

The most obvious cause would be a variation of the string alignment caused by either an inconsistent anchor or movement (tilting) of your head.
The string should be lined up down the centre of the riser at full draw. You should see the string as a white blur down the middle of the riser, because you are looking down the left hand side of the string as you aim.

If you tilt your head unconsciously the position of the string relative to the riser will change. This will affect position of the bow as you aim - although the sight is on gold the bow will be pointing slightly left or right. The variation of your head position does not have to be very much to move the arrow left and right. (try this to see the affect. by closing your left eye, look for the blur of the string and then tilt your head slightly left and right)

The string alignment can also be changed by small differences in your anchor (reference) point on your face. Do you have a centre of face reference or one that allows the string to run down the side of your face. Do you have the string on the point of the nose? Any changes to your reference with move the arrows across the target.

Advrice:

Concentrate on keeping your head still, but with a relaxed neck.

Be sure your reference point is consistent

Check the string alignment is consistent down the riser

Let me know how you get on

Colin