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Old 29-06-07, 12:42 PM
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Coaching. Who, Where, How much?

So given the lack of coaching from my club I thought I'd look for some private coaching. TEh question is (or rather,are) Who, where and how much.

I'm based in East Anglia and Peris is my nearest shop. The offer a coaching service, but who want's coaching by a shopkeeper :

Serioulsy can anyone suggest away forward and how much is it likely to cost me.
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Old 29-06-07, 01:46 PM
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Don't be fooled by bits of paper. It's scary just how little offical coaches seem to know!

If you can, talk to people that have been coached by the person. Ask them how they find them, what standard they were before they started and what standard they are now.
Does the coach spend time with them weekly?

If your paying for a service, make sure you know what your getting for your money!

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Old 29-06-07, 02:00 PM
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Don't be fooled by bits of paper. It's scary just how little offical coaches seem to know!
Thats a rather unfair sweeping statement. I'm not a coach but even I think answering a post with such biased point of view isn't doing anyone a service.

Shame shame shame.

Beardy does your county association have a coaching group? They should be able to help.
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Old 29-06-07, 02:10 PM
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Don't be fooled by bits of paper. It's scary just how little offical coaches seem to know!
That's a sweeping statement Kae. There are a lot of really knowledgable coaches in this country. And most of them are very busy coaching very good archers. But even at club and county level there are a lot of excellent coaches around.


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If you can, talk to people that have been coached by the person. Ask them how they find them, what standard they were before they started and what standard they are now.
Does the coach spend time with them weekly?

If your paying for a service, make sure you know what your getting for your money!

Kae.
Can't argue with this though. Personal recommendation has a lot of merit but be aware that a relationship between a coach and an archer is a very personal thing. What suits one may not suit another.

I would be very reluctant to pay for coaching in this country. The philosophy is that coaching in this country is free, unless to go to a private business like that offered by Philip Van Buren. (Or even Perris if they charge)

In your position I would approach your County Coaching Organiser and get a list of coaches in the county. If the county can't help you or the coaches can't then go to the Region (East Midlands for you I think).

You will have to accept the fact that you'll almost certainly have to travel to get your coaching. Also have a clear objective in mind. "I just want to shoot better" is not a goal that is atainable as it has no boundaries. Iwant to shoot a 1200 FITA by the end of next season is: It has a definable goal (1200) and a time frame (9 months). With that sort of goal you and your coach can work on a timetable of intermediate goals, fitness program, mental training, diet, etc.

Above all you and you coach must be prepared to put in the time and effort to get you to your goal.

Good Luck.
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Old 29-06-07, 02:15 PM
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So given the lack of coaching from my club I thought I'd look for some private coaching. TEh question is (or rather,are) Who, where and how much.

I'm based in East Anglia and Peris is my nearest shop. The offer a coaching service, but who want's coaching by a shopkeeper :

Serioulsy can anyone suggest away forward and how much is it likely to cost me.
It depends were you are in east Anglia , I give my services to our club free and one more would make little differance , our club is oobac in Peterbough , if that is in reach of you come along i am sure that i can help you ,there would be no charge.We shoot every Sunday from 9am.
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Old 29-06-07, 02:42 PM
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Tony Preston at Perris is a very good coach and has provided me with many titbits of information over the years. To dismiss the guys at Perris as "just a shopkeeper" is a mistake in my view

I think Tony charges £30 per hour and also runs a group sessions for intermediate archers(up to Bowman standard)

Best wishes , Mark Huff
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Sorry, that should have been SOME coaches seen to know.

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Old 29-06-07, 06:53 PM
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If you are in Cambridgeshire, then there are very few coaches available (big problem). Check out the respective county websites and contact their county coaching organisers for listings of coaches. There are plenty of self styled coaches - so beware. Alternatively, contact "Shamba archery" for coaching near Ely.
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Old 29-06-07, 07:42 PM
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I'm based in East Anglia and Peris is my nearest shop. The offer a coaching service, but who want's coaching by a shopkeeper :
If the shop keepers in question can take you to GMB and beyond how serious do you want to get
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Old 29-06-07, 07:58 PM
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If the shop keepers in question can take you to GMB and beyond how serious do you want to get

To follow on from this you really need to define what you expect from coaching - is it a long term development plan to help you reach your ambition within the sport or just an hour hear or there to keep you on the straight and narrow in terms of technique and equipment set up - they are not the same and require very different levels of commitment.
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