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Old 01-07-07, 07:44 PM
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Limb bolt - tiller Fiddling- wish i hadn't

Couldn't help it - know I shouldn't do it - did it anyway.

two of the guys were bareshafting at 60 when I got to the club late after a 'wine tasting/glugging' evening.
MMM Thought I.... wonder where my bareshaft falls at sixty ( never tried it before)....surpisingly - fletched in the custard- bare in the black at 9 o'clock!...and I so expected to miss....

Only needs a tweak on the limb bolts - thinks I...and I can manage another pound drawweight no probs.
well - I got another pound and a half on the weight - and the bareshaft never moved....nor did the fletched.

BUT even though I notched up the bolts equally my positive tiller has jumped from 0.8cm ...to 1.2 cm!!!...and refuses to go back to normal even when I return the limb bolts to previous - Ugh? what? Dodgey bolts - oh no hope not!

Groups are the same no discernable difference in shot, groups or stability not to me anyway at my level..
leads me to query:

Just how critical Is tiller?
And what difference does it make- if tweaking it 50% makes no difference?
And how do I get it back to where I started if it does make a difference?

Oh I Hate fiddling with limb bolts!
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Old 01-07-07, 07:58 PM
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First and most important, stop worrying about it.

Next, set the tiller to whatever you like. Where the bolts have to be to achieve this is irrelevant. (Personally, I prefer a small bit of tiller. Think I picked two millimetres because that's the size of the scale on my bracing gauge, but it might also be zero)

That done, chuck a bareshaft down at 18m and then again at 30m. Bareshaft at one distance only is just asking for trouble as you can get some sort of flukey result at that - my last set of arrows were fine to 30m, weak at 40m, and fine again at 50m. (Consistent, done several times on different days, cet. par. etc)

So. Set it somewhere you feel happy with, stop thinking about it, shoot the thing.
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Old 01-07-07, 08:24 PM
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Oh I Hate fiddling with limb bolts!
What was it you said the other night that you would leave well alone
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Old 01-07-07, 09:15 PM
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What was it you said the other night that you would leave well alone
Yep- wasn't gonna touch a thing and promised myself that too- but it was Just a tweak, and towards perfection (suposedly), after a week when I imagine everyones sight carriage was a little lower than usual....and no harm could come from it...and the other boys were doing it...and I thought I'd get away with it...and ...and.

Must learn to resist temptation!
Alchohol has always affected me that way....
Points noted and Thanks, Shirt. The biggest effect would quite likely be in my head if I don't dismiss it!

Only positive is that I'm ready for those 40lb borders I've been looking to procure..that'll bring 100 yards closer....oh no Im doing it again!
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Old 01-07-07, 09:21 PM
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Old 14-07-07, 07:58 PM
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I'd talk to Sid.

I don't know how XP10s are designed, but if the philosophy is the same as TXBs, then the tiller is built into the limbs.

Set the bolts completely equal, click the sticks in, and you're away.

(Or not, if they're different to TXBs...)
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