Compound Bare Shaft

[SLOWHAND]

I have a 2007 Allegience 29" draw set at 54lbs. The arrows are Navigator FMJ 460 spine with 110 grn piles and the shaft length is a bit under 28 1/2". Carter wrist release.

This set up seems to be shooting very well and I'm getting good groups at all distances.Tried a walk back test and the drop is verticle. But being the sort of person I am, I thought I'd try a bare shaft test, just to confirm that everything was ok. To my dismay at 30m the bare shaft was about 15" to the left of the fletched group (height was spot on) and at 10m it was 6" to the left with the nock well right of the pile (I'm right handed).

Can any of you compound Guru's out there give me any advice.

[geoffretired]

I can't help much, but this has happened to me more than once.
One day I shoot and get results like yours.Without changing the set up of the bow, a couple of days later I try again and the bare shaft lands in the group.
A small change in the way I shot on the different days is the probable reason.

[GeoffT]

Slowhand,

Don't be so curious..........don't shoot a bareshaft.

IMHO shooting bareshafts out of compounds proves absolutely nothing.

[laminatekid]

Originally Posted by GeoffT

Slowhand,

Don't be so curious..........don't shoot a bareshaft.

IMHO shooting bareshafts out of compounds proves absolutely nothing.

could not agree more waste of time, a little bit of walkback shoot for groups then forget about it.

[pyroarch57]

And there you have it in a nutshell. If you have perfect form and a well set up dropaway rest, you can SOMETIMES learn something from bareshaft testing, otherwise forget it.

[SLOWHAND]

Thanks! My miinds at ease now.

[Marcus26]

It shows you are likely torquing your bow.

[geoffretired]

So, could the bareshaft shooting be a useful way to find out how to shoot without that torque? Or is there not much to be gained by that?

Originally Posted by Marcus26

It shows you are likely torquing your bow.

with marcus on this one, i have recentley replaced the grip on my mathews conquest 3 with a grip from "torqueless bow grips" and have noticed a slight inprovment with grouping, perhaps with more practice on my part it could get better.

[ASW1973]

God that marcus boy is good
I was about to say the same. Bare shafts can be used to tune compound but only if you are not torquing the bow. Simply go to full draw look at wher the long rod is pointing with respect to the arrow and then compare it to their allignment at rest. If you want to move the bare shaft around then alter their alignement at full draw. If you want to use bare shaft to tune make the alignment the same as at rest
It is always a fun way to mess with someone's head by picking up their kit and shooting bare shafts in a different place to them (compound or recurve) by torquing the bow and no one ever seems to work out how that can be