String position, on nose or past

[ASW1973]

this has all been discussed before not least in the link already quoted but here goes:
1) position on the face does not influence alignment, alignement affects allignement you can put your head anywhere so get this sorted.
2) anchor anywhere you like just not to the rh side of your nose if you are right handed and vice versa if you are left handed. This is not a personal choice moment IT IS WRONG
3) use your nose dont use your nose it is just a question of face shape and how you want to position head. points 1 and 2 are crucial
4) a tight tab hand position on jaw and face is utterley important. Dont anchor just using the platform must have good jaw tab hand contact IT WILL GET YOU OUT OF TROUBLE when you make a bad shot and you will make fewer bad shots as you can no longer float the rear elbow and low and behold you have alignement!!!!!!

[Duss]

Originally Posted by ASW1973

this has all been discussed before not least in the link already quoted but here goes:
1) position on the face does not influence alignment, alignement affects allignement you can put your head anywhere so get this sorted.
2) anchor anywhere you like just not to the rh side of your nose if you are right handed and vice versa if you are left handed. This is not a personal choice moment IT IS WRONG
3) use your nose dont use your nose it is just a question of face shape and how you want to position head. points 1 and 2 are crucial
4) a tight tab hand position on jaw and face is utterley important. Dont anchor just using the platform must have good jaw tab hand contact IT WILL GET YOU OUT OF TROUBLE when you make a bad shot and you will make fewer bad shots as you can no longer float the rear elbow and low and behold you have alignement!!!!!!

I am failing to follow your reasoning in point 2). Could you please be clearer?

[ASW1973]

dont anchor in such a way that the string would be on the right hand side of your nose if you are right handed (left hand side for left handed archer).
this is a side anchor which leads to big problems (dont anyone say look at magnus petterson 'cos he is very much the exception).
side anchor leads to excessive face string contact and flinching of the head it also means you have got the wrong tab hand jaw line position and alignement will be poor. Work on the principal that there can be no exceptions to this rule.

[pHz]

i assume when you say right hand side of nose you mean fully past the tip of the nose itself ?

or is a reference that puts the string still on the tip of the nose but slightly to the right (or left for a leftie) rather than bang down the middle still incorrect ?

slainte : rob

[Marcus26]

Originally Posted by ASW1973

this has all been discussed before not least in the link already quoted but here goes:
1) position on the face does not influence alignment, alignement affects allignement you can put your head anywhere so get this sorted.
2) anchor anywhere you like just not to the rh side of your nose if you are right handed and vice versa if you are left handed. This is not a personal choice moment IT IS WRONG
3) use your nose dont use your nose it is just a question of face shape and how you want to position head. points 1 and 2 are crucial
4) a tight tab hand position on jaw and face is utterley important. Dont anchor just using the platform must have good jaw tab hand contact IT WILL GET YOU OUT OF TROUBLE when you make a bad shot and you will make fewer bad shots as you can no longer float the rear elbow and low and behold you have alignement!!!!!!

Excellent post!

[Rhys]

That point you make about the solid jaw contact stopping you from floating the elbow makes a lot of sense to me now its spelt out

[DaveNick]

Originally Posted by yam350

I have been coached/advised to bring the string back to the nose and anchor under the chin...
Jeff

I was coached/advised in the same way, However, I have recently been encouraged to have a reference point (not anchor) at the side of the chin which helps to get a longer draw length, the elbow back, which tranfers the bow weight on to the shoulder. This position then helps with a better follow through. Of course, theory is one thing, practice is another but it's worth pursuing as it will take time to change your style.

Cheers Dave

[Rhys]

I've never thought that referencing down the side of the face should be used to create good alignment. Its a cheap fix and alignment can be done without it!
I think Marcus has put it best when he describes bringing the drawing shoulder back and round towards the start of the draw

[DaveNick]

Are you saying that alignment is best achieved by having the string drawn to to the nose and then having the platform of the tab under the chin to have everything central?
Can you not still have the string touch the nose, come the side of the mouth and have vertical alignment between arrow nock and eye?
Your eye is not above your nose unless you're a Cyclops

[ASW1973]

with reference to this whole issue read what I have written here and marcus has written in referenced post. Obviously it will not go down well when I say that what we have written is not opinion it is bio-mechanical fact which gives a style that uses the least resources. Anything else is wrong or if it is more palatable Bio-mechanically less efficent