Archery Interchange the UK Archery Forum  

Go Back   Archery Interchange the UK Archery Forum > The Shooting Line > Methodology, Tuning, Coaching etc.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 22-10-07, 10:02 PM
Jerry Tee's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Revolution
Limbs: 38lb winacts
Sight: Arten Oylimpic
Stabilisers: Clickers, K&K twins
Button: SF
Bow String: 14 strand fast flight
Arrows: 1816

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2,087
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingate_52 View Post
I use separate buttons and arrow rests indoor and out. Last year I weakened my button to compensate. This year I have raised the bow weight. Will stiffening the button change anything? I used to wind my sight pin 10mm to the left in a successful attempt to get everything working.This year upping the power has sorted things out.
You would be better off doing a bare shaft tune, rather than tweek and hope.
__________________
I am not a grumpy old man, I am a cynical senior citizen
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote


  #12 (permalink)  
Old 22-10-07, 10:07 PM
TWIW's Avatar
In the Red
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Best Zenit
Limbs: W&W Winus Carbon 42lb
Sight: Shibuya
Stabilisers: Cartell Full Set
Button: Red Shibuya DX
Bow String: 8125 18 strand SDM
Arrows: Navigator 660 27"

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 610
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groundhog View Post
I think you have answered your own question


I agree. Looks like an ad on AIUK
__________________
Counting down to ScoCo (The next one!).
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 12:27 AM
numpty's Avatar
In the Gold
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Helix
Limbs: 38# Long 900CX
Sight: Shibuya Ultima
Stabilisers: Cartel
Button: Beiter
Bow String: Fastflight
Arrows: Cartel Triples 400

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: up in the hills
Posts: 998
You could make the arrow out of Stainless Steel. That would stiffen them.
__________________
Only me.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 12:42 AM
In the White
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 40
Extra strands.
More serving.
Heavier serving.

Don't understand why you are willing to add strands to your string etc. but not willing to lower the poundage slightly.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 02:19 AM
ASW1973's Avatar
In the Gold
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 729
none of the methods for stiffening the arrow will make the slightest effective difference. Yes you should have got 400's at least, no discussion. If it is going to bug you then ditch the 500 and get some 400s.
However and again i am going down a route lead by tom!!!
Just shoot them at 18m check nocking point with bare shaft and if they shoot good groups and the bare shaft does not bug you then get on and use them. If the bare shaft is anything less than a foot whippy at 18m you are out of alignement and torquing the bow. Dont mess with pressure button as one person i saw had done recently to the point where he may as well have had a nail for a button and wondered why he shot left and right!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 02:20 AM
ASW1973's Avatar
In the Gold
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 729
or plan b wind the bow down to 42lbs and they may tune
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 06:34 AM
Schme1440's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Luxor 27"
Limbs: Inno Power 48#
Sight: Bernardini Freedom
Stabilisers: Posten Nation!
Button: Black Beiter
Bow String: BCY8125 Yellow
Arrows: X10 450 w Socx

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rainham Essex
Posts: 3,082
So in addition to the methods I suggested adding rear end weight mite also help.

No I have not tested the arrows yet as I am waiting for my new bow. I was looking for a list of methods incase they were too wippy.

Winding the bow down wont be an option as It will not be wound up. I could ask if they are not wound all the way out then it maybe an option but if the tiller can not be wound out much then it wont be an option. I like shooting 48lb and dont fancy lowering my poundage. Id rather buy new shafts which may become an option.
__________________
The Italian stalions www.bybernardini.com
My Countdown Counting down to: Vegas Archery Festival 2008!
Viva Las Vegas!!!!!!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 07:15 AM
Shirt's Avatar
In the Gold
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Axis
Limbs: G3
Sight: Sureloc
Stabilisers: ACE
Button: Beiter/Cartel
Bow String: Yellow
Arrows: ACE

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birstall
Posts: 1,135
Until you've actually shot the things, you've got no idea whether they're too weak or not. Bear in mind that a lot of people with the new CarbonExpress Nanos and McKinneys are (re!)discovering that a parallel shaft shoots stiffer than a barrelled one - e.g. for an ACE400 shoot a McKinney 500.

Now, if I recall correctly, you shoot an X10 500. Presumably that works to some level of acceptability, you can tune it more or less so you're happy? 500 spine stuff would therefore probably be about right... at least right enough that you can make it shoot acceptably. But you really can't tell until you've shot them, and it'd be a fairly base mistake to go and do all manner of things to an arrow and your bow in the hope of getting a perceived weak arrow to be stiffer when it may then turn out to have been right in the first place.
__________________
If you make something idiot proof, all that happens is someone builds a better idiot.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 12:48 PM
Schme1440's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Luxor 27"
Limbs: Inno Power 48#
Sight: Bernardini Freedom
Stabilisers: Posten Nation!
Button: Black Beiter
Bow String: BCY8125 Yellow
Arrows: X10 450 w Socx

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rainham Essex
Posts: 3,082
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt View Post
Until you've actually shot the things, you've got no idea whether they're too weak or not. Bear in mind that a lot of people with the new CarbonExpress Nanos and McKinneys are (re!)discovering that a parallel shaft shoots stiffer than a barrelled one - e.g. for an ACE400 shoot a McKinney 500.

Now, if I recall correctly, you shoot an X10 500. Presumably that works to some level of acceptability, you can tune it more or less so you're happy? 500 spine stuff would therefore probably be about right... at least right enough that you can make it shoot acceptably. But you really can't tell until you've shot them, and it'd be a fairly base mistake to go and do all manner of things to an arrow and your bow in the hope of getting a perceived weak arrow to be stiffer when it may then turn out to have been right in the first place.
I will have to shoot the arrows first just want to know what I can do if the spine is wrong.

All the charts say that the spine should be fine. I normally shoot a stiff spine (yes I do shoot 500 X10 but have some cut off the back to stiffen a little) so Im hoping it should be fine. We shall see. My worry with going to 400 is will they be too stiff? On paper yes. I will just have to give it a go and see what happens. Hopefully wraps will help stiffen the rear end (if anything) but we shall see.
__________________
The Italian stalions www.bybernardini.com
My Countdown Counting down to: Vegas Archery Festival 2008!
Viva Las Vegas!!!!!!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 23-10-07, 02:35 PM
wingate_52's Avatar
It's an X
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Black Winact,Jager grip
Limbs: Winex 42#
Sight: Copperjohn with G505
Stabilisers: 31" Doinker carbon
Button: Shibuya
Bow String: 16/18 strand Majesty (R.Young)
Arrows: Nav 610,Fatboys 500 27"

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bowdon
Posts: 2,157
My indoor Fatboys shoot well, as do my 610 navigators outdoors.I only change the rest and button. The Fatboys are not in the T5 box on Easton's arrow selector but in their configuration they work. Try yours and see what they do.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Exchange ss piles for tungstens to stiffen X10's King Custard Methodology, Tuning, Coaching etc. 20 01-08-07 05:53 PM
spin wings stiffen arrows? Timid Toad Recurve Bow: Discussion/Q&A 16 18-07-06 02:27 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Archery-Interchange.com © D. Renton