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Old 30-10-07, 04:31 PM
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Old 30-10-07, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WE
like many have said trying to feel the muscles is not working but when its what your trying to achieve its hard not to try and do this - vicious circle.
I have read this thread, and most of the others that share the same topic. It isn't a tiresome topic WE, at least I don't think it is.
I feel the reason it crops up so frequently is that so many archers have been down the wrong road. Many are still going down the wrong road, passing on or receiving information that could be described as, out of date or unhelpful.
It looks to me from your words above, that you are still trying to get things right by feeling the "right" muscles at work. That isn't working as you say.
If you are using your arm muscles during the draw, they are small and weak compared to the back muscles and you will feel them as they struggle to do something they are not really capable of doing with any ease. The back muscles will still be working, but quietly in the background,so you won't notice them.
Learning to draw by moving the elbow; moving bones, as Marcus says, can take time specially if you are already in the habit of using unnecessary arm muscles.It might make it easier, at the beginning, to learn with a really light beginner's bow.
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Old 30-10-07, 05:31 PM
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cheer geoff

i was htinking about the light bow option too. may help initially
that or going to compound lol
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Old 30-10-07, 06:03 PM
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I feel the reason it crops up so frequently is that so many archers have been down the wrong road. Many are still going down the wrong road, passing on or receiving information that could be described as, out of date or unhelpful.

So true Geoff. I was one of those archers for four years, but now i`m on the right track. It takes a while to sift the good advice from the not so good, and just as your archery improves so does your ability to seek out and use the best of the information which is offered, and apply it to advance your shooting skills.
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Old 30-10-07, 06:28 PM
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Dunno how much ye've tuned but if your indoor short range is bad it could be the tune, did you check the clearance your arrows? red lipstick on fletches is a good one... im sure theres a thread here about it somewhere.

when i get back tension right i feel a small expansion across my chest. try use a rubber band to practice with, get the feeling first. poundage has to be right aswell, if its too high for you then forget about getting yer form right. pay attention to your breath, hold it in when expanding.

if your focusing too much on one thing then other bits of your draw/shot/followthru tend to vary i find, making it all the more annoying!

dont let it frustrate you, find that inner calm or whatever. nobody ever gets it perfect everytime. i look at the korean olympic shooters form on youtube and copy that as close as i can, find what suits you tho and dont change too much all at once.

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Old 06-11-07, 09:46 AM
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This is a bit controversial in my club but it worked for me and people are commenting on how my form has improved.

What I did was tired out my arms and biceps but lifting a few weights. not too much just so that they are tired, not sore. I then proceeded to shoot with my normal form. What i found was that my body compensated for my tired arms and I instinctively used my back to hold the weight. I found my grouping was tighter and I could hold the string for a lot longer that I thought I would. and my arms never got tireder.

maybe give it a try and see how it goes.
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