Tuning has left me puzzled... help needed

[General Dogs]

Originally Posted by Nick Forster

I also had a Arten Europa if you look at the rack of your sight you will see that it is set over towards your sight window by about 12mm, this I found left no adjustment on my windage and the pin was fully wound in. Try spacing the sight away from the riser to give yourself some adjustment a 10mm plastic block works a treat.

I found this out the first time I used the sight, so fitted a 5mm spacer block to give me some windage adjustment. It's not that I can't move the sight further left, just that if I do so it will sit inside the string (ie the string will align to the right hand side of the aperture)

Originally Posted by Nick Forster

Also which side of the string are you sighting down when you shoot, inside (riser side) or outside.

The string is a blur, sitting pretty much in line with my sight aperture

[General Dogs]

Originally Posted by geoffretired

General Dogs, a normal set up(if there is such a thing) will have the arrow point just right of the centre line/string line of your bow for a left hander, yes?

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Originally Posted by geoffretired

The sight, normally, would be more or less directly above the arrow, yes?

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Originally Posted by geoffretired

The string line, when at full draw, would be just to one side (left) of the sight ring.

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Originally Posted by geoffretired

What you describe has the sight setting, closer to the sight window than the "normal".That usually means soft arrows, as BE says.

- So although the bare shaft groups well, the shaft may not have the "ideal" spine for my setup?

Originally Posted by geoffretired

I mean no disrespect to your coach, but is it possible he set up centre shot, forgetting that you shoot left handed? It can happen.

- Checked and OK. Coach is also a leftie (and v. experienced)

[General Dogs]

Originally Posted by sp220

Where does the string align in relation to the sight when the bow is in its relaxed braced position?

With the string aligned down the centre of the limbs, the sight aperture is almost bang on the line of the string.

[Nick Forster]

Originally Posted by General Dogs

I found this out the first time I used the sight, so fitted a 5mm spacer block to give me some windage adjustment.



The string is a blur, sitting pretty much in line with my sight aperture

I put a 10mm block under the original arten plastic block no problems after that until the thing fell to bits now got a shibuya. no blocks no movement problem perfect.
Nick

[Jerry Tee]

Originally Posted by sp220

if the bareshaft lands within the group the arrows are neither stiff nor weak, just alter the alignment, sight pin, button tension, etc untill the group moves into the middle.

If you cant get them into the middle, just move the sight as it makes not a blind bit of difference anyway, my entire indoor season last year was shooting arrows intentionally way too stiff, just moved the sight pin out, still got quality scores as it doesnt make a sparrows fart bit of difference. My problem is that if it isnt absolutely right I have a problem forgetting it and just getting on with shooting, so if this is the same for you, just dont let it niggle you, just try and forget it because it will only bug you needlessly.

Do not adjust the button tension do a walk back and set the center shot

[TonyF]

You have not mentioned how much off-set you gave the ACE's. Hopefully you have taken account of the slight barrelling effect where the arrow shows greater off-set at bracing height than when at full draw. This can have a dramatic effect on the position of the group. AS others have said, try adjusting the button position to get the best group in the right place

[WhitehartFB]

Have you checked your arrow clearance I have seen the result you describe caused by this especially if big adjustments with the button are needed to correct it ?

Also this is only a starting point for when you get outdoors. Last march indoors I got what many would consider a text book bareshaft result, but outdoors the groups and arrow flight were terrible.

It took an afternoon shooting at all distances from 30-90 to get the arrows working with me not against me.

[General Dogs]

Well, after two sessions trying to sort out the tuning problems I decided to adjust the sight way to the left so that I could finally land the arrows back in the custard.

Trying various methods I can confirm that the spine appears about right, if a little whippy (though I have only been able to bare shaft at 20yds).

On Saturday just gone I attended a Shropshire Archery coaching session at Lilleshall where my setup and technique was scrutinised, resulting in my sight being retiurned to the "text book" position just outside the string line.

The only way I was finally able to get the arrows back into the Gold was by moving my string alignment from the sight ring to the riser. This moved the arrows the 5-6" to the right and into the Gold.

Whilst this has resolved the problem I am still perplexed, and not particularly satisfied with the fact that I now have to align my string differently.