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Old 16-12-07, 12:13 PM
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Me too. But go find a coach and take the guy with the raised front shoulder along with you
After some of the things coaches have done to me I take great care before acting on advice.
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Old 16-12-07, 02:56 PM
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*wonders if this will let me post...*

I'm "re-trying" recurve because i feel my decision to choose compound was a bit unfair...to myself. I chose it partly because i couldn't get a recurve to work properly, and so went the "easy" route. In any case, i feel like i'm cheating atm, so i'd rather see how i'd choose if i could actually shoot a recurve "properly".

Also, i don't think i'm overbowed since i only shoot 28 pounds...i measured about 87 pounds with one of the old bow scales.
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Old 16-12-07, 03:09 PM
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*wonders if this will let me post...*

I'm "re-trying" recurve because i feel my decision to choose compound was a bit unfair...to myself. I chose it partly because i couldn't get a recurve to work properly, and so went the "easy" route. In any case, i feel like i'm cheating atm, so i'd rather see how i'd choose if i could actually shoot a recurve "properly".

Also, i don't think i'm overbowed since i only shoot 28 pounds...i measured about 87 pounds with one of the old bow scales.
Do you mean 27, rather than 87?
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Old 16-12-07, 04:06 PM
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Do you mean 27, rather than 87?
I meant 87 using the bow scale without a bow attached...just me trying to pull the thing as much as i could. A few people were giving it a try in my club so i had a shot. Saying that, the stronger archers were pulling it till it hit the back bit...
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Old 16-12-07, 04:37 PM
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Bracers and arm guards have been a staple of archery for over a thousand years (actually longer than that). I've never understood what appears to be a recent (since compounds came on the scene) belief that hitting the bow arm with your string is a sign of poor form or some kind of error. Wear an arm guard and shoot the (expletive deleted) thing!

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PS: The above is not intended to minimize or ignore the need for good, proper form.
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Old 16-12-07, 06:17 PM
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I meant 87 using the bow scale without a bow attached...just me trying to pull the thing as much as i could. A few people were giving it a try in my club so i had a shot. Saying that, the stronger archers were pulling it till it hit the back bit...
In that case, sorry I misunderstood. However just being able to pull 87 pounds on a bow scale does not necessarily mean anything with regard to what you are shooting and being overbowed or not. It is not really a like for like comparison.
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Old 16-12-07, 06:36 PM
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Bracers and arm guards have been a staple of archery for over a thousand years (actually longer than that). I've never understood what appears to be a recent (since compounds came on the scene) belief that hitting the bow arm with your string is a sign of poor form or some kind of error. Wear an arm guard and shoot the (expletive deleted) thing!

Dave

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Even get the odd prehistoric bone armguard showing up in archaeologycal records, so technically there has always been a problem with hitting the nice soft bit of youre arm with a bow string, bracers were probably invented just after the bow, but before the inventor drew it back the 2nd time.
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Old 16-12-07, 07:39 PM
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Even get the odd prehistoric bone armguard showing up in archaeologycal records, so technically there has always been a problem with hitting the nice soft bit of youre arm with a bow string, bracers were probably invented just after the bow, but before the inventor drew it back the 2nd time.
In that case, i'll simply get a longer armguard!

Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Old 17-12-07, 12:28 AM
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Hitting the arm isn't a sign of bad form inherantly, but it often can highlight a form issue
agreed

id always shot with a long armguard (upper and lower arm type) because i had an early problem with hitting my bowarm - in the summer i felt confident enough in my form to switch to a small beiter guard - all was fine (no arm hits) until i started to have some form issues and sure enough the horrible bruises returned all too regularly and painfully (tendency to occasionally get the string in behind the 'leading' edge of the guard)

have now switched back to the longer guard while i work things out again - i know there might be some value in keeping the small guard (the learning power of avoiding pain ! ) but id rather focus on getting things right than on just avoiding the pain

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Old 17-12-07, 12:52 AM
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Hitting your arm is by no means a sure indication that you are doing something wrong. A lot of the time it can indicate a problem, but you can have a perfect technique and still hit your arm. Personally, I know the string hits my arm every single time because when I shoot without my armguard by mistake (a very painful mistake I quickly learn from ) the string starts to carve away at exactly the same spot of flesh on my arm with every shot...

In terms of armguard recommendations, if you have a big problem go with a long armguard, but the best you can probably get is a beiter. I was quite worried when I first used mine cos frankly it's tiny but it gives you the protection you need in exactly the right place.

And in regards your shoulder... up is bad!!!!!!!!!!! Work on your lats and it will help you to keep your shoulder down.
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