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Old 20-01-08, 12:25 AM
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recurve video resources

sure ive seen this somewhere but might not have (certainly seen stills but cant track them down either)

anyone know of any readily available video footage of a recurve archer shot from directly overhead ?

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Old 20-01-08, 10:04 AM
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Don't know of any video but I have seen stills as used by 'Archer Analysis' on Archery forum (I'm hoping to get some shots to enter into it next weekend!)
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footage from overhead; i think Rhys can help you. he has some of his own shooting.
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Old 20-01-08, 11:26 AM
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Try the Bieter site - there used to be some good video shots there
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Try Angus Duggan's personal training videos - close but not quite overhead.
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Old 20-01-08, 11:52 PM
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Try Angus Duggan's personal training videos - close but not quite overhead.
thanks murray but its not quite there - the upper limb masks one of the things im interested in seeing

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Old 21-01-08, 12:35 AM
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Hi Rob, You've got my attention now. What bits do you really want to see in the video?
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Old 21-01-08, 12:57 AM
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footage from overhead; i think Rhys can help you. he has some of his own shooting.
Not that I wouldnt like to say that my alignment is quite nice , but he probably would like to see some pro's from above I'd have thought lol


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Old 21-01-08, 09:30 AM
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Riser: merlin elite (black)
Limbs: merlin elite 36# (39#)
Sight: AGF safari / beiter
Stabilisers: spigarelli / merlin
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Arrows: x-pert 820 / junior 2016

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Hi Rob, You've got my attention now. What bits do you really want to see in the video?
nothing groundbreaking geoff - while working on my draw and that back elbow thing ive just got to thinking about the relationship between the path the elbow follows during the draw and the path of nock travel during the same period

no major insights to follow - im just curious

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Old 21-01-08, 12:27 PM
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Thanks Rob.
This is an interesting aspect of the draw, I feel.
Rightly, or wrongly, my thinking has been this.
Viewed from above, the draw elbow describes an arc, radius is the foreshortened length of the humerus.(so a level elbow gives a longer radius seen from above, than a higher elbow)
The forearm, when the elbow joint is relaxed all through the draw,along with the arrow will look like a single straight line, rotating about the bowhand but increasing in length(as the arrow is drawn)
The path of the nock will be a scaled down version of the elbow path as it is always a forearm's length nearer the pivot point.
I think that for many archers, the elbow joint is tightened through part of the draw which puts the arrow and forearm out of line with each other so the nock is always following a straighter line.
I'd be interested to know what the ideal shape is and why.
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