paper tear test - value for recurve shooters ?

[pHz]

???

slainte : rob

[chrism]

yes........

[Robin the Hood]

....which ever way it goes, something will make the Re-cycling Bin..

Paul

[grimsby archer]

Originally Posted by pHz

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slainte : rob

Wow, first in!
Damn, not quick enough!
Paper testing is ok for nock height on recurve, but I think it has been established now that because of the bending action of the shaft which is part of archers paradox, it should be pretty impossible to get a true "bullet hole" rather than a horizontal tear, and even if you do get a bullet hole, its pretty meaningless.
Now over to the others....

[madmac]

No
depends on distance to paper ie you get perfect bullet hole take a step back or forward you get a horizontal tear .
agree with Grimbsy Archer

[Murray]

Waste of time IMO. Why go to the bother of setting up a frame just to set nock height when flinging down a couple of bareshafts will do the job nicely?

[pHz]

thanks for the responses so far - keep em coming though

i already have a fairly firm opinion on this - just wanted to see whether i was in tune with current thinking or not

(if it helps to work out where im coming from i currently adhere to the james park method of setup / initial tuning)

slainte rob

[Jerry Tee]

OK I know you said recurve, but I think you mean finger loose. Tried it waste of time. bare shaft followed by walk down.

[Desert Archer]

Following the "Tuning for Tens" protocol, I paper tune with a stiff plunger at 6-8 yards for both nock height and spine/point weight. Then I shoot bare shafts back to about 30. If they are flying pretty straight I fletch a handful and start fine tuning with the plunger. This has worked better for me than trying to get bare shafts to group with fletched shafts.

As always, YMMV!

Dave

[Old Bloke]

As I remember, and this is going back a long way, the paper tune test was devised to help archers set up the position of the arrow rest on the bow, as many of the bows did not have overcut centers and arrow rests were packed out with extra leather or suchlike. Depending on the spine of the arrow, and basically it was either wood or 1818 alloy in those days, determined the amount of leather packing. The paper tune(?) test was done to see how much the arrow was *lying over* when it left the bow. The amount of tear could be reduced by reducing or increasing the packing. I watched my dad do loads of paper tune tests as he made one-piece bows and tested them first and offered guidance on what was the best arrow(s) for the given bow from this simple rough and ready test.
Over the years, equipment has changed, not only with past centre bow window but also the pressure (Burger)(compensator) button and as such should have done away with the paper tune test as there are other and in my opinion, more accomplished methods for tuning.
The method of paper tuning has still remained in some books but does not state the history of this method and for it's use.
As a footnote, the tear you get can be altered with different thickness's of paper/card together with different fletchings. Shooting an arrow with spin wings drills a very big hole!