Take a look at these!

[Schme1440]

Well I have done some more shooting vids. If you care to please take a look and comment on possible ways to improve! And yes I know my draw elbow is high but to lower it feels out of alignment when at full draw.

YouTube - Archery - My Technique
YouTube - Archery - My Technique
YouTube - Archery - My Technique
YouTube - Archery - My Technique
YouTube - Archery - My Technique

[King Custard]

worthy of emulation. You look like you've won after three arrows!

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by King Custard

worthy of emulation. You look like you've won after three arrows!

Well I wish the scores were as good as they way you make my technique sound. Since I injured my shoulder I have gone back to basics. The only real change is you will notice my bow shoulder gets pushed towards the bow. This is a slight rotation to help settle the joint. If I dont do this movement then it can irritate where my shoulder was injured.

[Murray]

Fair bit of movement/instability. You'll probably get away with it on the faster shots, but the slower ones will tend to give you left/right spread at distance. Reasonable amount of unnecessary head movement in there too.

Best to keep your gob shut in case you develop an "open mouth" habit.

Shot is fairly fluid, therefore not many solid checkpoints - looks like you're rushing through it (perhaps due to bow weight) - needs to be a bit more controlled.

On the upside, good string shots, good commitment to finishing the shots, good line, good follow through.

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by Murray

Fair bit of movement/instability. You'll probably get away with it on the faster shots, but the slower ones will tend to give you left/right spread at distance. Reasonable amount of unnecessary head movement in there too.

Best to keep your gob shut in case you develop an "open mouth" habit.

Shot is fairly fluid, therefore not many solid checkpoints - looks like you're rushing through it (perhaps due to bow weight) - needs to be a bit more controlled.

On the upside, good string shots, good commitment to finishing the shots, good line, good follow through.

Your comments are duely noted. With time the stability will return and the speed will slow as I readjust to the poundage. Im not getting in enough shooting since returning from injury. I think its just a matter or time before these points are ironed out. I will keep these points in mind next time im shooting.

[!!!]

Your fence could do with a bit of TLC, and the grass looks on the long side.

Anything else I can help with?

New bow looks nice.

[Schme1440]

Originally Posted by Yorker

From the look of it your stance is quite close - while it is fairly subjective maybe a bit wider would be of benefit.

Personally I'd say there is nothing wrong with your technique aside from later on in some of the videos your predraw and turn of the midsection starts merging with your draw - so on a least one shot your torso wasn't in fact in the same line as it had been before because your predraw pretty much continued straight into your draw with the twist in the middle.

None the less - in my opinion you look stable at the point of release, when you make the predraw, twist and draw three separate definitive motions it looks solid and flows well. Obviously no issues with the clicker...

Meh

I can explain the stance. I put a board down months ago to stand on to prevent standing anckle deep in mud. Now the grass has grown round it I cant spread as much as I normally do.

Your main point is seperate the stages of the draw? When I watch top guy's shooting it all seems like one motion. Is this then an illusion and infact is multiple motions whcih when performed properly look like one?

[pHz]

Originally Posted by Schme1440

Your main point is seperate the stages of the draw? When I watch top guy's shooting it all seems like one motion. Is this then an illusion and infact is multiple motions whcih when performed properly look like one?

interesting point - if you read the KSL stuff it talks about 'vectors' of movement which suggests (if my interpretation is right) a series of seperate but linked movements - but youre right - this is fairly tricky to tell from a single continuous movement if the series is performed quickly

i guess the idea of seperating them out is so that youre only ever performing a single task at a time - one task uses less 'resources' than many combined and theres less room for error in a simpler single task than in a complex 'composite' one ?

slainte : rob

[geoffretired]

One possible difficulty with one flowing motion, is the way the finer details can become blurred.In a way, you can develop a form that has a start point and finishing point, with no checks in between, allowing unknown variations to occur . If your draw is built from separate parts that run one after the other, each part can have a clear start and end of its own.Each part can be learnt with care and become "well known " to the archer. If the parts are later joined, seamlessly, the individual parts can still be checked on the way; helping to keep things in shape.

[ASW1973]

the instability comes from a lack of rhythm (first part of draw is too quick and so actually slows down towards anchor losing power and bounces in anchor at one point). Front shoulder is actually quite good as is posture and then ruined at full draw with elevation of rear elbow causing an imbalance and lack of stability in front shoulder and posture so that you get stuck and when you are stuck you have nowhere to go.
So sort out rythm slow down the early parts of the draw.
Keep the alignement and balance you have achieved by not lifting the back elbow up into anchor.
all in all not a bad basis