Shooting it in the wind.

[Old Bloke]

Like pilots, you are the flyer of the arrow. You do not have to fly the arrow if it is not right, but do you have the sense to come down and start again or are you compelled to let it rip?
LiveLeak.com - Hamburg - A320 nearly crashed during crosswind approach

It was a windy day today in Europe.

Another view of the incident.
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Just take time to think about what you do.

[Old Bloke]

Yorker, that was anything but a lighthearted thread. It was a valuable *coaching* thread...sorry you missed the bus.

And for the record, it was a crap approach in a crap airplane (computer landing). The crosswind component exceeded the airframe capablity. Structural damage occured to the left wing with ground contact. Luckily it stayed together long enough for the aircraft to go around and land.

[woodsplitter]

Originally Posted by Yorker

I appreciate it is just a lighthearted thread but...
That was an almost flawless crosswind landing, pilot just didn't fully anticipate the wind which seemed to pick up even further!

How can it be an almost flawless landing if the aircraft didn't land?

[cornish george]

Did look remarkably like my arrows at 70 mtrs today

[King Custard]

If memory serves Joe tapley has a thoroughly absorbing page on compensating for wind with the button tension, and allowing the arrow to come off of the bow with a similar approach to the target as the airplane....allowing the wind to correct the shaft. I cant remember if it concludes as to good or bad ( probably overall quite a poor way to correct flight) - but I must find it before I go shoot - todays wind may be ideal to try that out....
..oh, and coming down a bit more often of course!

Another genuinely thought provoking thread!

[tel]

In corroboration of Georges comment, if we'd have come down with each failed 'approach' yesterday we may as well not have strung the bow.

[Old Bloke]

Many moons ago, when the first *Click* buttons were introduced, there was a thinking that when it was windy, to compensate for the arrow drift, the click button could be used to great effect so that the archer was always aiming at the centre of the target, by, in effect, changing of the pressure setting within the button, made the arrow appear to be stiff or weak. I tried it myself back in the 80's and it did work and noted that my *average* of score was higher when I used this policy rather than when I didn't. Roy Mathews also told me he used this method when he shot off a pressure button in *Quite windy conditions*.
It has to be said though that in those days it was alloy in the main that was being used and I wonder if the same policy would work today with the *click* buttons and carbons?

And *tel*, what did you learn from your exploits shooting in the wind?

[Jerry Tee]

Compensations are fine in constant conditions. That clip was a good example of gusts that can occur and that is what caught the pilot out. ( electronic or human ) Good gust responce comes from high mass and low cross section area. Wide bodied passenger jet equals large aluminium tube, hummm sound familiar?

[tel]

Originally Posted by Old Bloke

....And *tel*, what did you learn from your exploits shooting in the wind?

erm, that I don't like it and it hurts my back?

[Chris B]

Originally Posted by Jerry Tee

Wide bodied passenger jet equals large aluminium tube, hummm sound familiar?

Hmm, thin Aluminium/Carbon aeroplanes anyone?

Experience trumps technical fiddling every time.
If you're shooting a comp with someone you know is more experienced than you, shoot when he shoots. Then you'll probly get the best of the wind.
Aiming off is your friend. (But i find I never need to aim of further than the red at 100yrd (with ~50# on the fingers)). I love shooting in the wind; My practice field (Cheltenham) is on the top of a hill in the Cotswolds, so it offers great training in strong winds & gusts. I can normally shoot to my usual standard (high BM) no matter what the wind is doing.

I've havn't changed my button tension since i got new limbs nearly a year ago. Certainly not going to use it when a stiff breeze kicks up..