Carrying 2 sets of differently fletched arrows

[King Custard]

well today was..er...not nice to shoot. A nice constant - but fullface Headwind and rain.
Now - I was one of only four that are tough enough to shoot atall today....and on questioning the others ( who shoot plastic vanes- as opposed to my spinwings) I found that the easiest way to save my arrows being too low, was to shorten my sight extension, but keep the same sightmark. Doing so also helped to keep my aperture steady.

One of my mates X10's hit center ( give or take) for 3 little divisions lower on his sightscale
Another mates ACE's hit center ( give or take) for about 5 divisions change in sightmark,
and the 'darling of the team' shot far better with this headwind than in the crosswind of last week.
These three use plastic vanes.

My ACE's and spinwings hit center after bringing the sight extension in by 4 inches!!! Now I realise that it's difficult to compare extension changes to sightscale changes- but coming in by 4 inches should have put my arrows between the legs of a target another 20 yards away at that setting.
My conclusion is that any parachuting or drag effect caused by using spinnies was maximised in a head wind.

My question:
In a world of money being no object, in the world of the elite- would it be wise to carry a spare set of straight-vaned arrows with minimal offset for head/tail wind conditions....
and use the spinnies for the more usual conditions?

I'm reluctant to change to straight vanes for every condition as I find spinwings improve my group sizes generally anyway.

[King Custard]

I guess I'll have to find out on my own then......you're right this was always going to be a boringly short thread!

[wingate_52]

I shoot EP16s up to 70m, then at 70 and 90m shoot identical shafts and points with Flexfletch ffp150's.

[Devon_Archer]

any form of spinwing will decelerate at longer distances more than straight fletchings

A proportion of archers think that by using spinwings they actually get more distance, what they actually do is take the errors apparent from a badly balanced arrow and hide the fault

the reason for using spinwings or offset fletchings is that by rotating the arrow shaft rapidly they minimise the error of the shaft by rotating the error in every direction and therefore centralise the arrow error (if that makes sense) and keep it heading in the right direction

however the arrow only has a finite amount of energy put into it by the bow on release

by spining the arrow, a certain amount of energy from the bow, is used up by creating the rotation, this is a lot more apparent when using a heavy pile, when the arrow with spinwings suddenly seems to lose momentum at a distance and sight marks widen markedly

also the larger surface area actually presented by spinwings to the direction of flight is more than the parralel fletched arrows

Also unless the spinwings are placed 100% accurately and each spin wing exerts the same amount of spin you can ge some wonderful spirals down range

[Robin the Hood]

No it's not boring; ... ... ... ... But if money in not an issue, my suggestion would be to try it. If you have to get a set of arrows and they are the same as you use, they will not be wasted. But along with the fletchings, you would need a spare berger button, tuned to the second set.
Trying never hurt anyone except when money was the problem....

Paul....

[wingate_52]

I use the same button and do not change it for either set. There is a slight weight saving and area of the Flexfletch vanes.

[cornish george]

Having just got a new set of ACEs fletchted with Easton Diamond vane i am in a situation to comment, i will get back to you when i have shot them back to back with my spin wings, Tues night indoors, not ideal, will try them outdoors on Sat, should give a better ideal

[Devon_Archer]

in light rain up to about 70 yards, normally fletched arrows will hit slightly high,

in the same weather spinwings will hit low

why this is I have no idea, but having tried it, it does happen

[archer_thom]

Other than a slight drop in sight marks I've always found that I've shot better in headwinds than any other wind. (ACE, spinwing).

I've never actually used plastic fletches because of a worry that if they weren't perfectly straight then the arrows would plane one way of the other. Is this an issue? I know I'm the only compound archer using spins, but no one will tell me why this is bad. Also, could I use a helical clamp to fletch plastic vanes on outdoor arrows?

[ASW1973]

The only usefull thing said so far in this thread is: that movement of the sightbar in makes relatively small changes to the sight mark.
The rest of it is a mixture of conjecture and poor application of science
And no, top class archers do not have a set of straight fletched arrows to shoot in different conditions