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Old 02-04-08, 08:06 PM
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help with string alignment please

where should my string be relative to my sight at full draw?(recurve, right handed) At the moment I'm seeing it to the right of my riser.
I anchor almost centre of chin and nose tip.
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Old 02-04-08, 08:33 PM
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where should my string be relative to my sight at full draw?(recurve, right handed) At the moment I'm seeing it to the right of my riser.
I anchor almost centre of chin and nose tip.
I dont think it makes much differenc, as long as its in the same place each shot and isnt too far away from the sight pin. Do you mean (a)the string is between the sight pin and the riser body or (b) that its to the right of the riser completely? if (b) then I think that may be a bit too far out and would try bringing it in

you may want to look at this thread http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...ad.php?t=11958 to see what other think
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Old 02-04-08, 08:33 PM
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close your left eye- where is it now?
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Old 02-04-08, 08:47 PM
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It is on the far right.(with my left eye shut)
I presume that I will have to work on my head position to pull it in?
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Old 02-04-08, 09:03 PM
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It is on the far right.(with my left eye shut)
I presume that I will have to work on my head position to pull it in?
It could be your head,....or your feet, or hips, or shoulders, whether you have your bow arm bent or locked. It could also be the way you grip the bow. There are so many variables you really need someone qualified and/or experienced from your club to watch you shoot.

Then again , maybe having your string off to the right works for you and thats what you should stick with
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Old 02-04-08, 09:30 PM
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Stand up tall and straight before you draw. Your back should be straight up and down with your head floating on top- not leant backwards forwards or sideways atall ie the top vertebrae (the atlas and axis I believe) should be directly above your spine.

If you have your head in the proper position yet your aiming eye 'sees' the string on the right hand side of the riser....then as you shoot, your bow is actually pointing WAY left of your aiming point.

Best place to align string is on the edge of your aperture- and tune your bow to shoot gold at all distances from there.

Some will say it doesn't matter where you align your string, but believe me this is a little shortsighted a theory, given that you'll want to progress with your shooting, increasing in distance- where you are going to NEED your arrow to be shot through the Centerline of the bow maximising the energy put into the arrow.
Better to sort out string alignment early- and not have it hamper your improvement a month or so down the line towards progression.

You will likely find that when you get the correct body position- and line up string against aperture edge...that your arrows are way off to the right.

Recheck your basic tune- re: limb alignment/straightness, limb grooves, string centralisation, button body position, and spring tension.....if all this proves to be in order- you have the wrong arrows for your set-up or technique.

BTW can you provide further details on your set-up, draw weight, arrow length, draw length, arrow spine and type please?
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Old 02-04-08, 09:59 PM
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What I think you fail to appreciate is the amount of variation you can have in string position based on anatomy. I can have the string inside of my nose on the bowside : it is on the left of the riser. The shot is still dead straight to the gold though. Transversely I can have the string in an equivilent position on the other side of my nose, it appers on the right edge of the bow. The shot is still dead straight, no matter what the range.
ahem..why would you ever want to do that?

it ruins consistent:
string picture,
attitude of bow towards target,
string picture,
anchor points,
head position,
reference points,
pupil position

can cause eyestrain- one eye must be almost 'crossed' and looking through the bridge of your nose.
Only on the instance of advising an archer with a 'fused neck' and unable to face the target would I ever relent and teach 'string goes on bowhand side of nose'.
But then - if it's working for you, I mean really working, by all means carry on with no argument from me atall
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Old 02-04-08, 10:22 PM
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It is on the far right.(with my left eye shut)
I presume that I will have to work on my head position to pull it in?
This is quite likely- almost certainly as 'something is telling you so'
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Old 02-04-08, 10:55 PM
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Noble Savage, If you stand at full draw looking into a mirror, you will see some of what is actually happening. From what you have described, I would expect you to see that the bow string in the mirror is very slightly right of your aiming eye pupil. It could be that you are tilting your head over to the left, but you will see for yourself if that is the case.
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Old 02-04-08, 11:16 PM
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I anchor almost centre of chin and nose tip.
When you say almost centre of chin & nose tip are you actually touching both or just your nose?
I cannot touch both with the string at full draw and so anchor to the RH side of the chin & centre of my nose. this means that I see the gold through the sight over the bridge of my nose and the string blur through the centre of the sight ring, I have to use an open aperture no pin. The sight is above the arrow and very little centreshot offset.
Although this works for me it may not suit you. What you need is somebody with some experience stand next to you and see that your posture is consistent, if it is not that needs correcting first. Then try varying the sight picture until you find one that works for you.
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