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Old 20-04-08, 11:02 PM
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interesting question ?

born from a casual chat in the C & Q

(as many of these things are for me)

in terms of overall performance what mental situation would you rather be in ?

1 - trusting in and committing every arrow to a 'flawed' shot or form

or

2 - shooting every arrow doubting your 'good' shot or form

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Old 20-04-08, 11:32 PM
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in ?

1 - trusting in and committing every arrow to a 'flawed' shot or form

or

2 - shooting every arrow doubting your 'good' shot or form
I would say No 1 as doubting your ability would be more disruptive and probably cost more points.

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Old 20-04-08, 11:49 PM
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Sorry boy its just too oooooo vague explain more!
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Old 20-04-08, 11:53 PM
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OK - ill try

two archers - one with (consistently) flawed form and one with good form

first archer commits to EVERY shot despite his flaws - second one doubts his good form at every shot

whos better off overall ?

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Old 21-04-08, 01:48 AM
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it's an interesting question: what would be easier to overcome - psychological or physical flaws in archery. both issues would require discipline to resolve, as ultimately you need both physical and psychological discipline - one isn't enough. i think it would rely upon the individual, but i'm tempted to say that good physical form is easier to develop than psychological form, so i would answer that the confident archer would have a greater advantage.
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Old 21-04-08, 06:42 AM
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Archer 1 will be the stronger archer in the long run if he/she can commit to fixing the form flaws one by one and retaining the confident shot.
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Old 21-04-08, 08:13 AM
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Trusting your form is essential, I feel. Even if your form needs to be improved, not trusting it will mean the results are worse than the form is capable of producing.
Not trusting what you are doing at the time, also means that you rarely learn to do what you intended as you rarely execute the shot the way it was planned/ prepared.
The lack of trust masks so many of the subtle features;it's a bit like trying to analyse an archer's form watching a video produced on a poor quality mobile phone.Another aspect of this is that lack of trust can go unnoticed, and is not corrected as a result. Trust is a big part of getting better, so long as the work gets done.
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Old 21-04-08, 01:52 PM
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The mantra I repeated to my students when I was a firearms instructor was, "Do the same thing, every time, time after time." I find it applies to archery just as well.

This sport is full or stories of someone who has a flaw or individual quirk but is so consistent about it they still perform brilliantly. Based on that I would say the answer is easily your #1.

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Old 21-04-08, 01:55 PM
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Number 1 - if they've got a repeatable flaw but are confident then they can adjust the sight to compensate. I find that when I'm shooting the biggest problem is letting a bad shot get to me and throwing off the rest of the end.
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OK

what if the archer in case #1 isnt necessarily aware of their flaw (so cant consciously compensate) but is neverless totally committed to every shot ?

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