Playing by the rules

[Little Miss Purple]

sorry GA.. I've used my thanks for today

You hit the nail on the head!! If you don't like it.. don't read it. If you really cant agree... then don't - just stop the childish ### for tat!!

[clickerati]

Originally Posted by grimsby archer

previous posting comparing numbers of "Dave"s in ones club.

there is a place for that here, too. if you don't like it, don't read those threads

[worthipa]

Originally Posted by Meddler

So if you have a complaint/concern about Coaching, speak to Coaching people. This is not the same thing as hiding it. It is making sure it is dealt with by the correct people.

Originally Posted by Marcus26

Can the recurve archers here please refrain from handing out advice for compound shooting unless you actually know the compound specifics.

Any more for any more ....?

[John (OSF)]

Originally Posted by grimsby archer

Isnt this statement hypocritica (or perhaps an oxymoron) l to say the least "I refuse to get involved but here is my opinion anyway whether you like it or not"?
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Aha I thought a slanging match was when you were making personal comments about somebody and not just stating an opinion.... Learning all the time

[Meddler]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

I refuse to get involved in slanging matches because they're boring and don't lead anywhere.

That's a very good philosophy, which I applaud wholeheartedly.

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

I do find it puzzling the 'if it happened in a company it would be a disciplinary' statement.. it wouldn't because if it was a company they would have to produce goods that were fit for purpose or face prosecution and not be able to decide not to answer straight questions regarding their products field testing etc. (so lets not pretend that we all work for a company eh?)

My comments were general, not specific, and if you feel that you are being got at, that was not my intention.

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

It's my opinion that gnas coaches had already lost crediblity (with exceptions) long before aiuk even started and now they are the only ones that take themselves seriously and codes of conduct are now used as hiding places and weapons imo

So, since you are a GNAS Coach :

Does the above apply to you?
Does it apply to me?
Do you feel you lack credibility?
Do you feel I lack credibility?
Are you one of the exceptions?
Am I one of the exceptions?
Do you take yourself seriously?
Do you feel I am hiding behind the Code of Conduct?
Do you feel the Code of Conduct is a weapon to be used against you?

So many straight questions... not one of which will receive a straight answer because by doing so, you could place yourself in an untenable position...

[John (OSF)]

Originally Posted by Meddler

My comments were general, not specific, and if you feel that you are being got at, that was not my intention. /QUOTE]

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No I didn't feel that but thanks
I just didn't think that it was a fair comparison for the reasons I stated

[John (OSF)]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

It's my opinion that gnas coaches were already losing credibility (with exceptions) before aiuk even started and now they are the only ones that take themselves seriously and codes of conduct are now used as hiding places and weapons

Originally Posted by Meddler

So, since you are a GNAS Coach :

Does the above apply to you?

Since I'm a gnas coach to those that don't know me well enough to have an opinion..yes

Does it apply to me?

Since you're a gnas senior coach to those that don't know you well enough to have an opinion..yes

Do you feel you lack credibility?

Since I'm a gnas coach to those that don't know me well enough to have an opinion ..yes

Do you feel I lack credibility?

Since you're a gnas senior coach to those that don't know you well enough to have an opinion..yes

Are you one of the exceptions?

To those that know me I hope so, but to those that don't know me well enough to have an opinion .. no

Am I one of the exceptions?

Not as far I know as I've never been coached by you

Do you take yourself seriously?

Not until I have to

Do you feel I am hiding behind the Code of Conduct?

I think it's a handy refuge for you when you get cornered

Do you feel the Code of Conduct is a weapon to be used against you?

It was attempted once but was proved to be the nonsense, as it was being used as a diversionary tactic by a weak individual


Iain,

My main concern is that in my opinion the gnas coach badge in itself is not the guarantee of the quality that I think it should be


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[bkupris]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

Since I'm a gnas coach to those that don't know me well enough to have an opinion..yes

Since you're a gnas senior coach to those that don't know you well enough to have an opinion..yes

Since I'm a gnas coach to those that don't know me well enough to have an opinion ..yes

Since you're a gnas senior coach to those that don't know you well enough to have an opinion..yes

To those that know me I hope so, but to those that don't know me well enough to have an opinion .. no

Not as far I know as I've never been coached by you

Not until I have to

I think it's a handy refuge for you when you get cornered

It was attempted once but was proved to be the nonsense, as it was being used as a diversionary tactic by a weak individual


Iain,

My main concern is that in my opinion the gnas coach badge in itself is not the guarantee of the quality that I think it should be


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No idea what's going on here but I am saving this one for posterity...

[bkupris]

"The GNAS Code of Conduct requires all members to behave in a manner which upholds the dignity of the Society and its members, and never abuse any other member of the Society.



The Scottish Sports Council Code of Ethics determines that

•Coaches will not engage in any behaviour which undermines the status and esteem of the profession.


• Coaches should respect the competence of other coaches and related professionals and will not engage in public criticism. "


FWIW this is the party line north of the border and I have been informed so not too long ago

[Little Miss Purple]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

My main concern is that in my opinion the gnas coach badge in itself is not the guarantee of the quality that I think it should be


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I think this is where the problem lies (or some of it)... there is a distinct lack of respect for the badge / certificate and how it is gained!