Payment for Coaching

[not dead yet]

ahhhh nat

that makes a big differance.

my answer to that is grab it while you can...hehe


day camp for over priviledged kids.

here's some money stay out of trouble sort of thing

[archerymad1991]

Originally Posted by Meddler

The question of payment for Coaching has raised its head above the parapet.

as an archer :
Would you pay for Coaching?
How much would you expect to pay?

as a Coach :
Would you/do you accept payment for Coaching
How much would you charge?

i coach in my club, but all the beginner course fees go into the clubs account- we do get free membership as coaches in our club tho

[napolienne]

Originally Posted by not dead yet

ahhhh nat

that makes a big differance.

my answer to that is grab it while you can...hehe


day camp for over priviledged kids.

here's some money stay out of trouble sort of thing

Exactly so, and yes I will!

[not dead yet]

hmmmmm interesting point here.

ARCHERYMAD 1991... " we do get free club membership as coaches.

you can look at this in 2 ways..

1/ it gives the coach a little back for their help.

2/ your the club coach you will coach the club members ,as you get free membership.

another can of worms maybe...

[Meddler]

I suspect it has more to do with being in a club.

If you are a member of a club you are expected to give your services for free at the club.

The payment of the club fee by the club is a recognition of the amount of work that the Coach does within the Club.

If I then go to another Club, I then start to go out of pocket, for travelling expenses, time etc.

If I work in and around the County/Area, I get even more out of pocket.

and so on.

If an archer asks me to come and Coach them, and they live 75 miles from me, I am severely out of pocket. Do I do this as a favour to that archer?

So if you add up the time, and coaching time to go and help that archer out, I should charge 150 miles @ 28p/mile, 4 hours travelling time @ £10/hour, plus say 2 hours @ £25... for a nett cost to the archer of £132 plus VAT, giving a total of £155.10.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

[moo-mop]

Originally Posted by Meddler

150 miles @ 28p/mile,

I think I would always try and insist on giving expenses, but I know I couldn't do market rates for the time. I am thinking of coaching one day and I know I also probably wouldn't charge for my time only my costs, it would be a worthwhile hobby for me to pass on what I've learnt through coaching myself (and whatever I got taught on courses ).

[Meddler]

A thought ocurred to me when I was at the sportscoach UK Summit in Coventry last week when talking about this very subject...

If you get charged for the Coaching, does that mean the Coaching has more value?

So by extension, if there is no charge for the Coaching, does it have no value?

[moo-mop]

Umm... value and perception of value. Shouldn't make any difference but probably does. I think if the coach records what's been done then that would help.

[Hidden Hippo]

To answer the original question - yes I would pay for coaching.

How much? What is the general going rate for individual coaching in other sports? I'd probably be prepared to pay £25 per hour for some decent coaching.

[not dead yet]

i think that that people do more when their getting paid.
a bonus system in work, wow the mind boggles

if we all charge the going rate which has been spoken about in coaching conferences.

then if we weren't giving the goods we wouldn't be getting any work.
adding to that though, we may fall short and lose alot of coaches due to them not getting paid.....if you see the pun....

on the other hand the coaches available would be sort after and making a living.

thus in the end we would have coaches for world class archers.


does this make sense now meddler

pete