Payment for Coaching

[napolienne]

Originally Posted by Cimbian

Now, perhaps you can see why I made a simple request for a chapter-and-verse definition on the insurance to either support or disprove what I and my fellow course members have been told on a paid-for training course.

Can I suggest you contact the GNAS office direct. They will say the same thing, but you clearly aren't going to accept anything less than that.

They key phrase is "reasonable expenses". And no, there is no definition of that. Which is probably why the phrase is used, given that GNAS doesn't want to be defining what constitutes a reasonable expense for every single coach in the country. This way leaves a bit of room for sensible folk to use their common sense.

[Little Miss Purple]

How can gnas put a figure on 'reasonable expense'?? The cost of fuel varies vastly in this country as does the cost of upkeep on a car depending on what make & model you have... use your heads archers and stop being so pedantic and looking for definative answers!!

[John (OSF)]

Originally Posted by napolienne

This way leaves a bit of room for sensible folk to use their common sense.

What do the rest do?

[Little Miss Purple]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

What do the rest do?

ask stupid questions and demand unreasonable answers

[napolienne]

^^^ quod erat demonstrandum

[Thunk]

If you need to be given a figure for car expenses rather than use a sensibly worked-out rate, why not use the one Revenue and Customs accept for tax purposes?

[Cimbian]

Originally Posted by Little Miss Purple

ask stupid questions and demand unreasonable answers

LMP. I fear that you, too, have missed the point.

NDY's statement was that one cannot EARN under GNAS insurance and this in turn means that should one EARN then the insurance is not valid: QED!

What I have been asking is not a stupid question but rather more serious and I'm dissapointed that you are willing to brush it aside in this way.

Getting tired of a debate does not mean it is acceptable to simply try to cut it short... It just means that no-one has provided a conclusive answer and in the interest of all in the coaching organisation this is not acceptable. I know we have senior coaches on the board that should know the actual status as should anyone qualified to assess candidates to coach level... Why have they not made an appearance in a definitive way? Could it be that they, too, are on shakey ground?

If the GNAS published the insurance policy to members then we would all KNOW and not simply guess.

Please do not be so dismissive.

PS: At least two posts seem to have been erased from this thread... Is this censorship at work or a gremlin in the works?

[bkupris]

Isn't the GNAS mileage rate 25p per mile? Is that what constitutes a reasonable expense for using ones car for coaching duties etc?

[not dead yet]

brian its gone up its 28p per mile.

thunk i think the tax man gets 43p per mile at the last count. but not 100% on that may have gone up.... but i'm sure it won't have gone down.

[Cimbian]

Originally Posted by bkupris

Isn't the GNAS mileage rate 25p per mile? Is that what constitutes a reasonable expense for using ones car for coaching duties etc?

HMCE states 40p/mile for the first 10,000 miles and then 25p/mile (I think) thereafter without paying tax, but that is not the same issue.

I'm an engineer and businessman not an accountant but I dare say we have some on the board.