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Old 18-03-06, 11:47 PM
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for those on the Wetherby course, does anyone know the name or address of the centre? I'm trying to get directions and can't find it on google
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Old 19-03-06, 01:22 AM
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The centre's called the Wetherby Adult Training Centre and it's on Audby Lane. The postcode is LS22 7FD.
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Old 19-03-06, 01:26 AM
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Thanx! Now won't be guessing how to get there, and will remember lunch....
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Old 21-03-06, 02:26 PM
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I was approached last night by a coach who wanted to moan about the level 1 course taking place in London.

He was specifically upset about the way 3 fingers under was being advocated as the way to start people shooting in the first session. He thought this was a waste of time and seemed worried that people wouldn't pass the course if they told the examiners that this was the case...

Did you find your course to be that didactic?
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Old 21-03-06, 02:33 PM
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He was specifically upset about the way 3 fingers under was being advocated as the way to start people shooting in the first session. He thought this was a waste of time and seemed worried that people wouldn't pass the course if they told the examiners that this was the case...

Did you find your course to be that didactic?
They are teaching this method of starting complete beginners on barebow using 3 fingers and reference at the corner of the mouth with middle finger.
The reasons given were that this was a good method of getting the correct arm alignment from the start. When moving on to freestyle i.e. with a sight then this arm action is kept and just the reference point changed. If you start with a sight the collective wisdom says that the arm can be all over the place. The aim is to get the draw correct from the start.
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Old 21-03-06, 03:16 PM
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He was specifically upset about the way 3 fingers under was being advocated as the way to start people shooting in the first session. He thought this was a waste of time and seemed worried that people wouldn't pass the course if they told the examiners that this was the case...
Why does he think it's a waste of time? Barebow is a perfectly legitimate approach to archery, including target archery. I think the guy needs to broaden his ideas about what archery is.

One nice thing about the three-fingers-under technique is that it leads to a high anchor, which brings the back muscles into play more naturally than a low anchor. Beginners get an early feel for which muscles should be doing most of the work.
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Old 21-03-06, 05:27 PM
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Tut tut - you know "anchor" is not the approved word. "Reference" is used now - something to do with the anchor being heavy and dragging you down.
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Old 21-03-06, 05:35 PM
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Bow String: D75 16 strands
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Uh? (Grunts, drags knuckles on ground, looks baffled.) I just can't get to grips with the 21st century.
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Old 21-03-06, 06:48 PM
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he does have a point tho, we're teaching an entire style then max 2 sessions later telling them to forget it? I know it works as its a technique we as a club use, but it is complicated and asking a newb to remember and differentiate a lot
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Old 21-03-06, 07:38 PM
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I was approached last night by a coach who wanted to moan about the level 1 course taking place in London.

He was specifically upset about the way 3 fingers under was being advocated as the way to start people shooting in the first session. He thought this was a waste of time and seemed worried that people wouldn't pass the course if they told the examiners that this was the case...

Did you find your course to be that didactic?
this is the correct way to begin to teach. why should it be a waste of time, your beginners will not know the difference granted that, but thats not the reason this method it taught, it is as stated by other the body alignment and posture which you are working on first. then transfer over to mediteranian.
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