Drugs in Archery

[addo]

I have suffered with sinus problems for a few years quite badly at times.When i first started having problems the doctor prescribed anti biotics for infection and solphadeine for pain.I still have the odd problem but i dont go to the doctors.However i do go to the chemist occasionally and buy solphadeine when it hurts a lot.They contain codeine which is on the banned list.I'm shooting in my first FITA star next week and am presently taking them.If i was tested would i be in trouble?I,ve read the FITA rules regarding medicines but i'm none the wiser.

I would appreciate an exact answer because up until 2006 i had been abusing every drug known to man one way or the other for 20 years.After nearly dying 3 times I spent 2 years getting clean.I'm proud that those days are well and truly behind me.The irony of getting tested and found guilty of taking drugs would really suck.Is there anyone i could phone to get clarification?

[ASW1973]

were you to be drug tested (which will only happen at one or two open conditions in UK in any given year) and are taking any drug on the banned list (irrespective of any performance enhancement) you may test positive. After a positive test there can be no mitigating circumstances for testing for a banned drug and the due punishment will be passed.
If you are prescribed a drug by a doctor then you can apply for a TUE as mentioned above. Interestingly in archery the receipt by GNAS of the TUE is enough for it to be inplace (although it may be rescinded on grounds of not being the only medicine for this ailment ie if there is a product not on the banned list that may be prescribed for this ailment you will have to justify why you take this one ) where as most sports require the whole process to be concluded before tue stands.
It would be unlikely that a codiene based painkiller will be acceptable when there are other pain killers out there not on the banned list. If you do want to take a drug on the banned list without a TUE then contact your doctor to find out how long after you take the drug it will be clear of your system (for example asthma inhaler is hours other drugs weeks).
The bottom line, for those who will partake in tournaments where drug testing is applicable, is don't risk it.

[Furface]

An important principal in this area is that the athlete is responsible for everything that enters their body. It is not enough to say "they were prescribed". Unfortunately, there are so many conditions out there that are routinely treated with a cocktail of drugs that the situation is confusing to say the least. If, like me, you are in this position, it is sensible for you to check whether each underlying drug - not the brand name - is on the banned list. If it is, then ask your prescribing doctor if there is an alternative that is not on the list. If not, then the TUE is the way to go.
Where there is a very grey area, IMHO, is at what level drug testing becomes operative. OK, it is often stated that you will only be tested at MB or International level, and practically this may be true. But it is also stated that entry to any RS shoot renders you liable to testing, and theoretically this is also true. As a second class archer on a prescribed diuretic (ie banned) what should I do?

[addo]

It would be unlikely that a codiene based painkiller will be acceptable when there are other pain killers out there not on the banned list. If you do want to take a drug on the banned list without a TUE then contact your doctor to find out how long after you take the drug it will be clear of your system (for example asthma inhaler is hours other drugs weeks).
The bottom line, for those who will partake in tournaments where drug testing is applicable, is don't risk it

Off to the doctors this morning to see if there is an alternative medicine i can take.I'm praying that the codeine will leave my system by next week.Usually i gargle with the solphadeine and the pain is gone in 15 mins,so they are very effective.However,if doctor says the codeine may still be lurking in my system next week i will withdraw from the tournament.I would rather remain a first class archer than a first class cheat

Thanks for very prompt and concise reply

[Murray]

Originally Posted by Deadeye Doc

Beta-blockers slow your heart, and of course as you have noted are used for hypertensives.

You clearly have more knowledge than I on the subject, but all I can say is that during my time on BBs, my heart rate was not slowed.

Now that I'm on a couple of hypertension alternatives (ACE inhibitor and alpha blocker), my heart rate is no different. Maybe I'm just odd

Someone else mentioned TUE for BBs - this is very difficult to get (if not impossible) as there are plenty of other legal alternatives.

[WhitehartFB]

Prompted by this thread I thought I had better check out my hayfever tablets
and found this summary which was very usefull as it lists all the common banned substances and those that are permitted.

I misread it at first missed the bit about permitted on page 2 and was all set to sort out a TUE

http://www.usantidoping.org/files/ac...allet_card.pdf

[Random_guy]

Originally Posted by Murray

You clearly have more knowledge than I on the subject, but all I can say is that during my time on BBs, my heart rate was not

I seem to recall in my first year, there was a medicine student at the archery club, who told us about a practical he did with beta-blockers. He said that they were in pairs, both took a drug, one was beta blockers, the other was a placebo (obviously not knowing which).

They then got on a treadmill for 20mins and measured heart rate. From what i remember, the point was to illustrate that beta-blockers lessen the effect that physical exertion/ stress increase your heart rate.....

[Trunkles]

Originally Posted by addo

Off to the doctors this morning to see if there is an alternative medicine i can take.I'm praying that the codeine will leave my system by next week.Usually i gargle with the solphadeine and the pain is gone in 15 mins,so they are very effective.However,if doctor says the codeine may still be lurking in my system next week i will withdraw from the tournament.I would rather remain a first class archer than a first class cheat

Thanks for very prompt and concise reply

Can't actually see codeine or codiene on the banned list - can see it on the American PERMITTED list

[felixity]

basically, codeine isnt on the banned list but it synthesises (sp??) into morphine which is so both would show up in a drug test. this athlete sucessfully argued that fact

http://www.sportstribunal.org.nz/dec...%20release.pdf

this year they are monitoring the codeine/morphine er...balance in specimens in competition along with quite a lot of other drugs actually.

also, as im sure you are aware, what is true this year may be totally different next year!

edit: i also found this link Sport and Exercise Medicine for ... - Google Book Search see page 159

just dont take anything as gospel without reading the banned list yourself! http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...08_List_En.pdf

[Trunkles]

Reposting this link which may be useful

DID Global

You put in the name of the substance and get a yes/no