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Old 08-07-08, 10:00 PM
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lesser of two evils

assuming coaching isnt an IMMEDIATE option (and yes - i know that would be the proper answer)

if you had a choice between the following which is the potentially less problematic ?

1 - bow elbow forced vertical and getting better feeling back use but bow shoulder feels like its high and being held in place by muscle power with the satbility and fatigue issues that might create ?

or

2 - bow elbow left in its natural position (45 degrees from vertical) with all the potential clearance issues that implies and better feeling (lower and more stable) bow shoulder but not so good feeling in the back ?

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Old 08-07-08, 10:05 PM
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Elbow at 45, don't force it.

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Old 08-07-08, 10:29 PM
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Agreed. Don't force it. Force=bad.
Your elbow angle and clearance probably aren't as bad as you think in any case...
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Old 08-07-08, 10:31 PM
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Agreed. Don't force it. Force=bad.
Your elbow angle and clearance probably aren't as bad as you think in any case...
heehee - my bruises and the noises i hear from my armguard say otherwise

(slightly popeye forearms)

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have you tried changing your stance?
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Old 08-07-08, 10:47 PM
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yeah leigh - over the last week or two ive been systematically trying various things

my original stance was 'half open' - front foot about half a foot behind the back one and open to about 30 degrees

have tried various options between closed and open and have settled for a 'fully' open stance (pretty much as KSL / ASW recommend in their respective guides)

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front arm clearance: rear elbow position is a symptom not a cause.
major cause is bow hand position, then side anchor.
Bow hand issue also leads to moving wrist during draw which will drive front shoulder issues.
Stance has absoluteley no effect on bow arm clearance unless it alters alignement by accident
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practice rotating yor elbow and build uo t it,
stand leaning against a door frame and just practice rotating to obtain clearence, you will be supprised how well you and how quick it will come together
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Can you post a picture of your bow hand position?
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Old 09-07-08, 05:04 PM
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if it will help of course i can (stills from video so quality not great)







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