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Old 11-07-08, 06:02 PM
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i prsume your recurve
Yep. The setup is not showing up. Must have to do with the recent changes.

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1 arrow catching bow shelf ,knocking point too low.
bare shaft doesn.t straighten up till approx 15mtrs so you need to bareshaft a minimum of 18mtrs
I will try it tonight.

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2 is the arrow shelf sticking out from the arrow too far.
adjust or bend in with pliers if it is
I guess you mean the arrow rest. Mine is Spig. Z/T and I adjusted it to medium pressure. It is barely visible under the shaft. I will try the highest pressure and extend it a little beyound the shaft.

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3 has your pressure button seized, or set too hard or too soft.
any of these pressure button settings will affect the arrow leaving the bow
That's one of my suspects. I will harden it a little too. I did think it would affect arrows much more on the horizontal plane.

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4 have you been shooting 90mtrs
if your sight is too low the top fletching may be kicking up onto the sight pin
It's not the case. I am shooting at 30m but even at 90m the sight pin has good vertical clearance.

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hope this helps
pete
It sure does. Gives me more food for though.



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Old 11-07-08, 06:04 PM
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Thank you all for the inputs. Tonight I will have a busy session fixing form and setup. I will keep you updated.

Still any other hints/suggestions will be very much appreciated.



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Old 11-07-08, 08:37 PM
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I had the same problem recently and after spending time looking at the arrows and bow setup I found it to be the position of my bow hand in the grip. Once I had rotated the position of my hand outwards, that is, clockwise around the grip, I immediately got clearance and good arrow flight. I've since bought a Jager BEST grip and it has shown me exactly where my grip should be. Its easy to bring small changes into your technique over a period of time that will eventually show up in an unexpected way and we tend to blame the equipment first instead of looking at the basics. Hope it helps, cheers.
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Old 11-07-08, 09:12 PM
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Alanadale, I'll second that.
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Old 12-07-08, 10:58 PM
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Hi

Yesterday I did some changes in my bow: hardened the button, hardened the rest and pulled the arm out so it holds the arrow better and, set even tiller and increased the nocking point height. I also was more careful with release. Powder test was OK, lipstick test still TODO. Overall it seems better though the bow sounded a little louder in the 30m range (two walls 3m apart) but not in the field when I shot it today.

I still have to work on the nocking point though: it is at 3/8" (from the rest) now but I think I need to set it to 1/2" as unfletched arrows are hitting 10 cm or so above fletched ones (18m). I am just a little concerned as 1/2" seems excessive to me.

I am also wondering if it is worth to return to 1/8" tiller as the bow sounded more silent before. Other than that it is shooting as nice now as it was before (discounted the noise and arrow hitting problem).

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Old 13-07-08, 04:45 PM
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When you did the powder test, where did you put the powder, on the back end of the arrow and vanes,or on the riser around the button and rest area?
If you re-set the tiller to 1/8"(shorter at the bottom) it can be easily reversed, so it would be worth trying.Note that the nocking point will move too.
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Old 13-07-08, 05:27 PM
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I put the powder on the bow (shelf and rest/button/clicker area).

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Old 13-07-08, 05:35 PM
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So, if there are no marks in the powder, it is likely the vane damage is being done by the sight. If it's the aperture or threaded rod, it should be clear at short ranges and only damage the vane at long range.If it happens at short range too, the vane may be striking the scale bar. Lipstick or powder on the bottom end, will be useful.
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your brace height might be within the range suggested by the manufacturer, but it may not be the correct brace height for you and your set up. i suggest increasing/decreasing the brace height incrementally and noting change in the sound of the bow and if you still have the same clearance problem.

i had the same thing with my radian & G3s recently
And same thing happened to me today.
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