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| coach level ? I have been coaching for over 20 years and started to think I was quite good at it. I joined AIUK a week or so ago and what a shock that was to the system. Things I had held dear were no longer good enough. I sat at home, red faced with embarrassment over some comments that had put my views in the bin labelled "out of date material". I have come to terms with that in a way. But far more important is the next step. I have always wanted to be a better coach. I still believe that the coach, who may never meet a top class student, should have access to top class coaching methods. I have broken into the training that would lead to the next level but I withdrew as I felt it was not the right method for me. This is not a complaint about the current coaching system. This is a plea for help.Does anyone know where the high level coaching methods can be found? Thanks Geoff      |
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26-03-06, 02:18 PM
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| Well, i guess you can buy the book "Total Archery", form Kisik Lee...i've heard that is pretty good.. |
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26-03-06, 02:40 PM
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I guess the answer is - not from GNAS Coaching Organisation !
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26-03-06, 05:49 PM
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| Total Archery is the current Korean way (well, close enough) Heretic Archer is the best alternative. As to the actual methods of coaching in terms of communicating with the student - God knows, but personally I'm a firm believer in the "carrot and cattle-prod" approach, since it's the only one that really works on me... 
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26-03-06, 06:45 PM
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| Thanks for the good suggestions. I will be looking into the books idea. I wonder if the books would be a good way of keeping up to date as a routine part of a coach's self improvement plan? Thanks again. Geoff |
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26-03-06, 06:54 PM
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| That's a hard one Geoff, each coach has a different outlook on coaching, which is not a bad thing, new ideas are always welcome and "if it sticks"use it! I think as coaches we have to keep our skills up to date, not only mental training but equipment based as well. When you wear a coach flash on your shirt people expect you to know the far end of a f--t on every aspect of our sport! I try and read as much as possible and have found a few good reads but most are repeated in a different cover. I didn't find this latest one by the Korean very inspiring at all. All I can suggest is look at what's new on the market, what people are shooting, observe them shooting and keep up your coaching skills, no easy at all. |
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26-03-06, 08:15 PM
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| I agree with Baldeagle's ideas that being different could be a good thing. I have no problem with different teaching styles but I do worry that I could be saying things that are no longer the best things to say. I have said things to students that has improved their shooting. What I would not like to do, is say things that improves their shooting but later proves to be a temporary measure. Had I said the right thing in the first place, they could have been set on the right road from the start. Two examples spring to mind here. One is, my idea that the bit after the release has to be experienced to be properly learnt. The other take on that is that it can be taught. The best I can do is explain what is going to happen and what it will feel like before and during and after. They get it right or wrong. I then reinforce the right when it happens and help them to make it happen again. If there is a better way, I would like to know what that way is so I can do a better job The other one is the bow shoulder, and keeping it low. For me the most effective method to get students on the right track is to give them a very light bow and let them feel the low shoulder when little stress is placed on it. When they have felt it once, I believe it will be easier next time with their normal bow. That is an area that is important so if I'm teaching it wrong it will be bad for the student and something I need to put right. This forum, I feel, is the place where I am likely to find the solutions or support that I need. Thanks again Geoff |
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26-03-06, 08:37 PM
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27-03-06, 07:34 AM
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| Geoff For current entry level coaching consensus the Fita manual probalbly the best bet. see http://www.archery.org/clients/fita/...4?OpenDocument No idea when the Level 2 manual is planned for publication. The Heretic Archer, Total Archery and Precision Archery are all recent books by established coaches relating to modern thinking.
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