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Old 30-07-07, 10:48 PM
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I used lipstick today to try to find out the problem with a junior's clearance. His upper fletches are all ripping on a regular basis. The lipstick indicated that the shaft is hitting the edge of the riser, and then so is the upper fletching. I am not sure what to advise him to do to fix this however. His nocking point has been set as well as I can, and the bare shaft is landing on a level with other arrows, or slightly below them. His arrows are several sizes too stiff though, so there is nothing I can do there. We have already weakened his button as much as possible. What else can I try?
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Old 30-07-07, 11:06 PM
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I used lipstick today to try to find out the problem with a junior's clearance. His upper fletches are all ripping on a regular basis. The lipstick indicated that the shaft is hitting the edge of the riser, and then so is the upper fletching. I am not sure what to advise him to do to fix this however. His nocking point has been set as well as I can, and the bare shaft is landing on a level with other arrows, or slightly below them. His arrows are several sizes too stiff though, so there is nothing I can do there. We have already weakened his button as much as possible. What else can I try?

What rest is he using? and what type of fletching?

You can try rotating his nocks to nearly the "Y" configuration (I've known that to fix upper fletch clearence issues)
If its an adjustable rest try lowering the height of the arm.

Ummmm... I'll have a think - gibbon had a similar problem (upper vane clearance issues) last year so I'll try and catch him and ask what else we did.

Also are things like brace height and tiller right?
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Old 30-07-07, 11:28 PM
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It's a flipper type rest with plastifletch fletchings.

I'll check the brace height and the rest arm next time.

The nock thing we could try as a last resort...it has also worked for me in the past, but then I have push in nocks whereas his are glue on ones so harder to rotate!!!. But this won't stop the actual shaft from hitting the riser!
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Old 30-07-07, 11:32 PM
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Ummm if its the shaft hitting the riser then theres nothing that can be done other than stiffen the pressure button. I thought from your post that it was just the fletches hitting the riser
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It's a flipper type rest with plastifletch fletchings.
The Win&Win, by any chance? If so, junk it, I could never get mine to stop ripping fletchings.
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Old 30-07-07, 11:39 PM
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Yes, the shaft hits first, about half way down, then the fletches rip. I'll stiffen his button...its very soft...he'll just have to live with incredibly stiff arrows until he gets heavier limbs. Thanks.
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Old 30-07-07, 11:46 PM
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Er, yes, it may well be the win and win. Poor lad, he keeps getting new equipment and then being told it is no good. Some of it is his own fault....he makes regular forays to archery world without telling us first or getting advice, but I feel really sorry for him as everything keeps going wrong. His new clicker won't stay on his bow (no clicker thread, so he had to glue it on, the glue didnt hold and now it is a real messy lump) so he is now talking about getting a new riser. The arrows the club coach sold him are way too stiff. The arrows he bought from archery world are even stiffer. His limbs splintered at full draw. Now clearance problems. At least he is becoming an expert in fletching, as he has to redo the whole set every week or so.
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Old 31-07-07, 02:36 PM
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The last time I heard of the top fletching being ripped off, it was the bottom one of a left hander's arrow being viewed by a right hander. I don't suppose this is what's going on here, is it?
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Old 31-07-07, 08:30 PM
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No, he is right handed. Weird I know.
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I assume the shaft hits the riser on the edge closer to the string as opposed to the edge close to where a clicker would be mounted.
That would indicate that the button was so soft it was allowing that kind of contact. Unless the contact was above the level of the rest, indicating (possibly) that the arrow was jumping up over the button.
You may need to stiffen the button, or move it further through. Also re-set the sight windage to allow for the adjustment.
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