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Old 30-04-06, 12:39 PM
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a.c.e problems

not with arrows actually,but with the shooting of them.
bought myself a new set of aces,i have to say that shooting them as apposed to aluminiums is quite different.
Has anybody else encountered problems changings from aluminiums to aces in respect to groups or more accurately the lack of.
did it take you long getting into the groove so to speak,i know that long term they are the business,but at the minute i wouldnt want to go further back than 20 yards just in case.
Any little tips on how to get back to the form i had shooting aluminiums previous before the change would be appreciated.
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Old 30-04-06, 12:46 PM
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merv, are you compound or recurve? if recurve, what bow and limbs, what draw length and weight at draw. If you shoot compound, sorry canott help but if recurve I could comment. I await your reply.
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Old 30-04-06, 01:37 PM
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hi robin helix with g3 limbs,draw weight 36lbs,drawlength 28 1/2 inchs.
Like i said its not the arrows that are problem but the actual shooting of them you know.
everything just feels different and it shows lol
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Old 30-04-06, 02:41 PM
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have you checked your bracing height, your button position/tension, are your arrows matched to each other and the correct spine, is your arrow rest in the right position? check these things as a starting point, then see if you have the same problems.
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Old 30-04-06, 05:46 PM
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Have you checked your center shot, could change alot if switching from big allys to small a.c.e.
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Old 30-04-06, 06:20 PM
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Have you checked your center shot, could change alot if switching from big allys to small a.c.e.
Yep centre shot will do it every time.!!
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Old 30-04-06, 06:25 PM
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When you change from fat arrows to thinner ones,they lie lower and nearer centre.If they are flying well rather than like corkscrews, it may be that you are finding the lower weight is upsetting your form. I had problems when I changed from Ali to all carbons.I felt the extra speed was like shooting a heavier bow in some ways, with more recoil and the shot seemed to " get away from me", if that makes sense.
If this is part of your problem it would be worth trying the ali's again for a while, regain your form then try the ACE's a second time. When you get back to form shoot some of each in close succession and see if you can feel any difference. Up to full draw should feel the same; it's the bit after that where differences usually show most.
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Old 30-04-06, 06:58 PM
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i expereinced problems with carbons when I first changed over about 3 years ago. came to the conclusion that they are more unforgiving of problems with shooting form. They expecially highlighted a bad release problem i didn't realise i had. Working on my release and perservering with the carbons eventually enabled me to enhance my form and thereby my grouping....hope this helps a little
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Old 30-04-06, 07:33 PM
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Not a problem, but changing from carbon Fatboys to carbon/alloy Navigators sure feels different, even indoors. Not neccessarily better but there is a different feel to the arrow when it leaves the bow.
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Old 30-04-06, 07:52 PM
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At a guess, I'd say 'cos you're moving less mass....maybe!
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