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Old 04-08-06, 08:13 PM
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You pointed out most of the reasons why your arrows fall. Maybe this is now just a matter of practice.
It takes some time to do all the right things every time an arrow is shot. To make the good movement mechanical it tooks time. Shooting to a blank butt and concentrating on the right things is the best way for that.

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Old 04-08-06, 08:43 PM
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You pointed out most of the reasons why your arrows fall. Maybe this is now just a matter of practice.
It takes some time to do all the right things every time an arrow is shot. To make the good movement mechanical it tooks time. Shooting to a blank butt and concentrating on the right things is the best way for that.

Be patient and studious!
Blind (closed eyes) blank butt is even better, it takes the visual circuits out of the system and allows the shot to be felt properly
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Old 04-08-06, 09:57 PM
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Clicki, listen very carefully for I shall say this only once!! Remove your rest and replace it at a slight angle so that the bottom tangent of the arrow just touches it and doesn't "lay"along the rest.This will make the arrow fall in towards the riser/button and not fall off as you draw. Easy!!!
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Old 04-08-06, 10:23 PM
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I went through a patch of this whilst my draw length was increasing. I got though it a long time before I got a clicker and it was 100% my fault and 0% the equipment....nothing much changes LOL
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Old 04-08-06, 10:38 PM
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At what stage in the draw does the arrow fall off the rest? Near the start or near the full draw or.....?
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Old 07-08-06, 12:55 AM
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Are you using a clicker, Clicki? If so, how strong is it? If your arrow comes off at full draw, it may be that the clicker is putting pressure on the button, and as soon as the clicker is off the arrow the button flicks the arrow off.

Happened to me last year - took me ages to find that one.
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Old 07-08-06, 10:21 AM
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Geoff - the arrow falls off approx. mid draw. It's not been as bad lately, so perhaps it had to do with my weak shoulder.

Thunk - I'm not using a click yet.
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Old 07-08-06, 10:45 AM
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If the arrow falls at about mid draw, it could be the finger just below the arrow.
As the string bends and squeezes the fingers together, that finger presses up from below and lifts the arrow off the rest. This is usually accompanied by the arrow hanging nearly level a couple of inches or so away from the rest before it eventually falls down. If the arrow falls away quickly, it is more likely to be the rest sloping down hill; rest out of level or canting the bow for a while during the draw.
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Old 07-08-06, 11:03 AM
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If the arrow falls at about mid draw, it could be the finger just below the arrow.
As the string bends and squeezes the fingers together, that finger presses up from below and lifts the arrow off the rest. This is usually accompanied by the arrow hanging nearly level a couple of inches or so away from the rest before it eventually falls down. If the arrow falls away quickly, it is more likely to be the rest sloping down hill; rest out of level or canting the bow for a while during the draw.
I currently have one brass nocking point on my string, which I intend to replace with serving or floss. I nock below it. I've trimmed my tab to widen the space, so perhaps I should trim it a bit more.

The arrow does fall away quickly and I've had one of the coaches watch me shoot to check for all aspects. She says she doesn't see me canting the bow.
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Old 07-08-06, 11:25 AM
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With a single nocking point, what keeps the back of the arrow up in the desired position?Is the nock fit fairly tight to stop it from sliding down the string? With a tight fit, any string movement can travel into the arrow and bring it off the rest.
Also, the wrist bent in towards the riser at the pre-draw, will, as the wrist straightens later on, cause the string to turn. A tight fit can pass the turning to the arrow which is in the direction that is away from the riser.
If you trim the tab, take material off the edge that fits under the arrow.
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