New GNAS Coach Grades

[Meddler]

Originally Posted by Rik

If I was shooting or coaching in Herts, I'd probably make use of them...

Doh!

Just because you are located in hertford, doesn't mean...

Oops. Sorry...

[Meddler]

Hello all!

For those of you who are interested, the NSG met this weekend at Lilleshall over two days to put the course together. Classroom tuition looks like being around 50 hours, plus supported practice out in the Clubs. Assessments will as before be a mixture of internal and external.

The materials for Assessors, Tutors and Candidates are being put together and should be completed between now and December. There will be another meeting in early December, with the first L2 pilot courses likely to be taking place in January / February 2007, with roll out shortly after.

Iain
aka Meddler

[Kellog]

Originally Posted by Meddler

Hello all!

For those of you who are interested, the NSG met this weekend at Lilleshall over two days to put the course together. Classroom tuition looks like being around 50 hours, plus supported practice out in the Clubs. Assessments will as before be a mixture of internal and external.

The materials for Assessors, Tutors and Candidates are being put together and should be completed between now and December. There will be another meeting in early December, with the first L2 pilot courses likely to be taking place in January / February 2007, with roll out shortly after.

Iain
aka Meddler

What is or how is supported practise going to work? Are we looking at a continuation of mentoring (as we have in level one) or are we looking at course tutors coing out to clubs?

[SVL]

Originally Posted by Meddler

Hello all!

For those of you who are interested, the NSG met this weekend at Lilleshall over two days to put the course together. Classroom tuition looks like being around 50 hours, plus supported practice out in the Clubs. Assessments will as before be a mixture of internal and external.

The materials for Assessors, Tutors and Candidates are being put together and should be completed between now and December. There will be another meeting in early December, with the first L2 pilot courses likely to be taking place in January / February 2007, with roll out shortly after.

Iain
aka Meddler

Ok is that for going from level one to level two
If you are already at coach grade ..... will you be expected to take the level two course ?

[hypertigger]

i think there would be an uproar if "coach" grade coaches had to do level 2!!! personally i wouldn't want to do it, i'd want to just get on and do county coach (or level 3 by the time i have time to do it)

there would be too many people to get through the new system than is practical i think.

[ben tarrow]

Originally Posted by SVL

Ok is that for going from level one to level two
If you are already at coach grade ..... will you be expected to take the level two course ?

On the precedent that assistant coaches took a half day "upgrade" to requal as level1 coach, I would expect the "coach to level2" transition to be something similar.
I wonder where they are going to get all the people needed to run and staff these courses. Since the Level1 roll out, every available qualified lead tutor, tutor, mentor and administrator has been working his/her socks off teaching and supporting practise in the clubs. (Surprising how popular the level1 course has been so far)
Now they are going to be wanting staff to do the same for the level 2s? Higher grade of staff required, so fewer of them available. Longer course, so presume longer supported practise needing more commitment from the qualified staff.

[Meddler]

Originally Posted by Kellog

What is or how is supported practise going to work? Are we looking at a continuation of mentoring (as we have in level one) or are we looking at course tutors coing out to clubs?

The idea is that Level 2 is a continuation of Level 1, so same rules apply... mentoring of Level 2 by Level 3 etc... Depending on the tuition requirments, tutors may well be going to see Level 2 candidates "in the wild"....

[Meddler]

Originally Posted by ben tarrow

On the precedent that assistant coaches took a half day "upgrade" to requal as level1 coach, I would expect the "coach to level2" transition to be something similar..

That is my understanding...

Originally Posted by ben tarrow

I wonder where they are going to get all the people needed to run and staff these courses. Since the Level1 roll out, every available qualified lead tutor, tutor, mentor and administrator has been working his/her socks off teaching and supporting practise in the clubs. (Surprising how popular the level1 course has been so far)
Now they are going to be wanting staff to do the same for the level 2s? Higher grade of staff required, so fewer of them available. Longer course, so presume longer supported practise needing more commitment from the qualified staff.

The general idea is that as time goes on, we will be training up more tutors, internal assessors etc. so the load will be spread.

[Thunk]

Meddler, as I said in a previous post, when down on paper the structure looks very good. I'm tempted to ask why it hasn't been done before now; after all, if one was designing a coaching structure from scratch it would look very similar. (Cynical me thinks that all this is being done not primarily to provide much-needed coaching but because there's government money up for grabs. But that's just me - cynical!)

My question is this - what is the time scale? How long does the coaching committee think it will be before the entire structure is up and running?

I think the answer is that it will probably not be completed in my lifetime - so - is there a plan B that can be plugged in within a shorter timescale until the super-duper version is in place?

[Meddler]

Originally Posted by Thunk

My question is this - what is the time scale? How long does the coaching committee think it will be before the entire structure is up and running?

The plan as set out by the NSG is for the entire structure Levels 1-5 to be in place by 2011/2012.

Originally Posted by Thunk

I think the answer is that it will probably not be completed in my lifetime - so - is there a plan B that can be plugged in within a shorter timescale until the super-duper version is in place?

No. The current Coaching Grades will remain in place until closed down by the NCO Education.
There will come a point when no more Coach courses will be sanctioned by the NCO Education. I think April 2007 is the cut off for assessing those courses.
County Coach will continue for the foreseeable future. I think probably for the next 2/3 years.