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Old 17-02-07, 11:13 PM
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Question any other long sighted archers ?

i ask since i am and encountered a problem because of it this week

switched from a thick white dacron string to a thinner black fastflight one this week and my string picture has now gone all to hell (indoors at least)

with changing my bow setup ive also moved my string alignment a fair way from the right hand edge of my riser (RH archer) to the RH edge of my sight ring

being long sighted i cant focus on things close up (zoe is always moaning at me about how dirty my glasses are but i cant focus on the lenses so never see the grime) and noticed shooting indoors last night that i just couldnt see the new black string when anchored other than as a vague and very faint wide blur

this obviously ballsed up my string picture (if you cant see it you cant align it with anything) and i was shooting pretty poorly - id set the bow up outdoors and in natural light didnt have much a problem with string picture shooting 2 unoffical frostbite PBs on the trot that morning

indoors i found myself either focussing really hard on the string enough to get some sort of alignment but then i was totally not seeing the target or focussing on the target and pretty much guessing which bit of the grey blur was actually the string (the latter was marginally more successful but neither were ideal)

see how it goes outdoors tomorrow morning again and ive already ordered another lighter coloured fastflight string assuming its the colour and not the narrower string thats the problem

so finally to the question

if a lighter string doesnt sort this out do any other long sighted archers have a similar problem and if so how do you get round it ?

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Old 19-02-07, 09:19 AM
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I try to use the left hand side of the blurr.
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Old 19-02-07, 01:00 PM
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I would of guessed its the change in colour rather than the change in thickness. At that distance from your eye, I would of thought the thickness would have made that much difference IMO.

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Old 19-02-07, 05:13 PM
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thats what i thought too but i also think it must be something to do with the yellow flourescent lights we shoot under indoors

it was much better outdoors again yesterday but still noticeably less clear than with the old white string

just waiting on the new light blue fastflight to arrive now - hopefully before indoors again friday night

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It might be worth wrapping some white tape round the string from the upper end of the serving to well past eye level. See what improvement that brings.
I have similar vision but get used to the differences brought on by different lighting conditions. The string is never clear really but focus on the target, once you have checked that the blur is just outside the sight ring.
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Old 19-02-07, 07:36 PM
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It might be worth wrapping some white tape round the string from the upper end of the serving to well past eye level. See what improvement that brings.
I have similar vision but get used to the differences brought on by different lighting conditions. The string is never clear really but focus on the target, once you have checked that the blur is just outside the sight ring.
the tape thing was actually the first thing i tried and it did ease the problem - didnt want to rely on it though since im not sure about how it sits with the rules (isnt there a rule on how far up the string the serving can come and couldnt a piece of tape at a certain height be construed as some kind of rear sighting aid ? )

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the tape thing was actually the first thing i tried and it did ease the problem - didnt want to rely on it though since im not sure about how it sits with the rules (isnt there a rule on how far up the string the serving can come and couldnt a piece of tape at a certain height be construed as some kind of rear sighting aid ? )

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Definectly a no no. The Serving (or anything else for that matter) isn't aloud to come into the line of sight. I wouldn't allow a score to be submitted on a club night, let alone at a competition if the bow was setup like that.

Although its a great way of working out what colour suits you.

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Old 19-02-07, 11:18 PM
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Definectly a no no. The Serving (or anything else for that matter) isn't aloud to come into the line of sight. I wouldn't allow a score to be submitted on a club night, let alone at a competition if the bow was setup like that.
Although its a great way of working out what colour suits you.
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thats what i thought - tried for a couple of ends just to see how much it was the colour thing but took the tape off straight away after that

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Old 20-02-07, 10:09 AM
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You are correct about the markings being used as a sight reference. The tape would be temporary but would show you whether the white would work. My other thinking is, if it works and you then relax with it, take off the tape and try to carry the confidence into your shooting when the string is less visible. Sometimes it is just a matter of trusting the string picture to be right, because it always is. Many archers hardly notice their string picture because it is always in the same place so they ignore it; unless it changes.
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thats what i thought too but i also think it must be something to do with the yellow flourescent lights we shoot under indoors

it was much better outdoors again yesterday but still noticeably less clear than with the old white string

just waiting on the new light blue fastflight to arrive now - hopefully before indoors again friday night

slainte rob
Light makes a big difference to some of us. When I shot R/C I ended up with a grey Dyneema 02 string- white flared out, black I couldn't see but grey worked for me.

Over here on the Darkside, I find the effect of fluosescent light through the scope is fun (not), and as for glare..... I wear a visor to stop glare on the strings around the peep, otherwise if I'm directly under a light all I see is the bright pink string not the peep-hole!

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