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Old 14-03-07, 03:49 PM
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Hi,
Could someone explain how to work out a handicap.
Our club runs its monthly comp and posts a handicap against each archer.
I presume that most clubs do the same.
I'm interested in knowing how its worked out, so I can check my practice scores to see how my handicap changes on these.

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Hi,
Could someone explain how to work out a handicap.
Our club runs its monthly comp and posts a handicap against each archer.
I presume that most clubs do the same.
I'm interested in knowing how its worked out, so I can check my practice scores to see how my handicap changes on these.

Many thanks

Jeff
I've got a (pretty much) word-for-word reproduction of GNAS's own explanation on our club's website, here.

The actual handicap tables are subject to a copyright that GNAS doesn't actually own, which is why you can't find them online (although they're available for purchase - about a fiver, as I recall - direct from GNAS), but if you have a quiet word with your club's records officer, I'm sure (s)he'll let you have a peek at his/her copy of the tables... They're not exactly 'stimulating' reading, and the plot's rubbish !
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You dont need to purchase them - Saints & Sinners have a great h'cap calculator at this site

The way handicaps work from a starting point of zero, if I recall correctly, is that you have to shoot 3 scoring rounds and your average h'cap is then taken from those rounds. Subsequent scores are then averaged against your running average throughout the season.

For example - you shoot a 65, 64 and a 63, giving you an average of 64. This is then your running h'cap. If you then shoot a 62, you will lower your h'cap by 1 point to 63 (taking the average of 62 and 64). If you end up with a decimal point figure, its rounded up to the nearest whole number.

At the end of the year, your carried forward h'cap is averaged over your 3 lowest h'cap scores of the year.
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You dont need to purchase them - Saints & Sinners have a great h'cap calculator at this site

The way handicaps work from a starting point of zero, if I recall correctly, is that you have to shoot 3 scoring rounds and your average h'cap is then taken from those rounds. Subsequent scores are then averaged against your running average throughout the season.

For example - you shoot a 65, 64 and a 63, giving you an average of 64. This is then your running h'cap. If you then shoot a 62, you will lower your h'cap by 1 point to 63 (taking the average of 62 and 64). If you end up with a decimal point figure, its rounded up to the nearest whole number.

At the end of the year, your carried forward h'cap is averaged over your 3 lowest h'cap scores of the year.
Close.
Handicaps starting point is 100,
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Handicaps starting point is 100,
"100" is what I meant to say - in other words, from scratch. No, that's not right coz "scratch" in golf IS zero! LOL! From the beginning, when you have no h'cap at all! When you're a newbie!

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decimal points are rounded up to next whole number. I.E 62.1 will be rounded to 63.
That's what I said!
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That's what I said! [/QUOTE]

I know, that why I edited it
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how are the outside handicaps worked out. Is it one handicap for each round or distance ?
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No, it's exactly the same way as described above. Go to the Saints & Sinners website, and enter a score (or more) into the calculator, and it'll give you the h'cap rating for that particular score. The averages work in exactly the same way.
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how are the outside handicaps worked out. Is it one handicap for each round or distance ?
Its one handicap a round
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how are the outside handicaps worked out. Is it one handicap for each round or distance ?
If I underdstand you correctly, then no.

The whole idea is that if the handicap tables are correct, and if you always shoot to the same level...

...then the handiccap you achieve for any round will be the same.


Thus, whatever round you shoot, there will ba a handicap score you achieve for that round (taken from the tables). After you shoot 3 rounds, you add the handicaps up, divide by 3, and round up to the next whole number if necessary. That is your handicap

(e. g.
round 1: 66 handicap,
round 2: 65 handicap,
round 3: 65 handicap;
(66+65+65)/3 = 65.33 ==>
66 handicap)

Thereafter, each round you shoot, take your running handicap (66 in this case), add it to the handicpa for the new round and divide by 2 (rounding up if necessary to the next whole number)

(e. g. shoot a 63 handicap -> (66+63)/2 = 64.5 => 65 for running handicap.)

That is the basic philosophy. The only real spanner in the works comes at the end of year, but for the moment, I hope that helps
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