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Old 14-04-07, 02:07 AM
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Some great advise thanks for everyone who has posted.

So the main things that come up are

1. Work on getting more weight on the back and inturn relaxing the arm.
2. Lowering the draw arm elbow.

With point 2. I have tried this in the past and it feels really alien. However with these comments I think I will need to work on it some more. I can achieve this quite easily with out any pressure but as soon as the pressure of the bow is applied my elbow springs up like a dog cocking his leg. Im not 100% convinced on all this unit aiming crap. Untill I get can get clear cut evidence or see it for my self that it actuall makes a difference then I wont bother with it. But thanks for the suggestion anyway.
Watching the 2nd video I see 2 things I am not happy with:

1. Duss' observation of your initial draw. It is really difficult to rotate the shoulder joint fully with your drawing hand/arm so low therefore there is a tendancy to use the arm muscles to draw the bow. This adds tension down the whole of the drawing arm and will give a poor loose. Your elbow looks to be to the right of the line of the shot as evidenced by the tightness of your clothing across the shoulder.

2. Your settle in to your anchor raises your drawing elbow above the DFL. Your shoulder does not move significantly though. This compounds the observation from 1. and prevents the weight of the bow being transferred to you back because the shoulder joint is now pushed out of line in 2 planes (horizontally from the initial draw, and vertically as you lift the elbow to get to your anchor.

My suggestions:

Raise the bow hand. If the 'unit aim' is difficult consider ligher limbs or wind off some of the weight. But if you prefer that type of draw bring the bow hand closer to the vertical.

At the start of the draw relax the arm from string to bicep. Then concentrate on rotating your shoulder joint to draw the bow aiming to get the elbow moving behind the arrow.

As you get to full draw use BOTH shoulders to move into your anchor. Your bow will move down as you come under your chin then back up as you get to your anchor point. This should keep your drawing elbow in line with your shoulder line.

As you take up the weight of the bow during the draw try to imagine your fingers are a set of hooks on which the weight of the bow hangs, and your arm is just a jointed lever. The resistance to this bow weight is provided by the need to maintain the position of your elbow at the end of the rotation of your shoulder joint.

Keep your arm as relaxed as possible.

To execute the shot ............ Stop holding the string and let everything across your shoulders relax.

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Thanks for the advise but I would like to mention these vids are now way out of date with recent form alterations.
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Thanks for the advise but I would like to mention these vids are now way out of date with recent form alterations.

Latest one is a month old. Got anything newer?

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Old 17-04-07, 07:34 AM
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Latest one is a month old. Got anything newer?

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Not yet. It was posted a month ago but the actual footage is older.
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