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Old 08-04-07, 05:52 PM
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Open ring, have tried pins on there own and various cross hairs, ring and pin combo's the aim then becomes an all too overwhelming part of my shot sequence and my scores plummet big style.
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Old 08-04-07, 05:57 PM
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Pray describe us the exact DETAILED shooting sequence you are observing when shooting. Number the steps, please. We might then find if something in the sequence could be altered to help you avoid the problem if it is not a physiological one of course.
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Old 08-04-07, 06:07 PM
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It's an X
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arrow nocked on string, raise bow pushing into the grip deeply from the shoulder until the sight ring is on the gold, start draw straight back toward me keeping ring on gold all the time, settle head on tab , establish my anchor all while continuing the draw all be it now ever so slowly, Click release follow through. Can put to bed the physiological side of the posts on the thread. due to the wall of my eye now being lumpy from the cysts that have developed there the Images I see are distorted, I drive along and lamp posts which I know are straight have a buckled section that corresponds with the cysts the same with white lines marked on the roads.
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Old 08-04-07, 06:27 PM
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May I suggest that you concentrate on the anchoring WITHOUT looking at the target (gold), but care to arrive slightly higher than the gold... Once you are anchored, THEN you look at the gold , center on it for about 2 seconds. Then pass the clicker.

I was asking about the clicker and the sight type because I have corrected some types of target panic by using a pure circle sight and/or a clicker. The purpose of a clicker is to have one concentrate on the anchoring form, NOT on the target! The purpose of the pointerless sight hole is to avoid some people to try and "go see around" the pointer

But the most important point is NOT TO LOOK at the target before you are well-anchored and in a quite definite (and definitive) position. You then acquire the target in a relaxed way and take TIME to center it... ka-boom!

Good breathing procedure sometimes helps in relaxing.

There is no definite recipe, all may take some time to work (or not). No magic, just proper attention to the important details.

Even if the images you see are distorted, the important point to remember is that they should be constant. I should expect the results to be as well unless the conditions change every time.
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Old 08-04-07, 06:54 PM
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Yeah thanks for that I'll take some of the aspects you raised on board, in the initial post and it seems to have got lost a little was the fact that the boss that we shoot at is round I know its round, 5 concentric coloured circles, but when I look at it now and it doesn't appear round (something not right about this) you take a second look the proverbial double take. I think it's going to be a case of getting used to seeing a pork chop shapped target and making the shot as I did before the condition developed.
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Old 08-04-07, 07:07 PM
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I should get rapped for forgetting to say something very important as well.

Try and practice the anchoring and set-up procedure close to a blank bale. Even try it with you eyes closed to avoid outside interference and get accustomed to the procedure IN ITSELF. Try and dissociate the different elements and do not anticipate. Let the parts flow and assemble in a continuous and supple fashion.

Once the anchoring is done, open your eyes and get to your aiming phase.

I cannot recall who exactly was doing that but it also might help : it was to look to see if you bow was really upright while you were anchoring, that keeps your eyes off the bale It may be Darrell Pace who was. I should check with my coach.
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Old 08-04-07, 10:38 PM
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And - (just throwing ideas around)

What would happen if you wore a pair of specs, with the lens of the affected eye blacked out except for a clear circle in the middle?
That would look really cool and professional you know.

Would this stop any picture forming on the affected part of your eye, effectively blinkering your eye while the other eye stays open until you're ready to aim proper?

No- I dunno either...but might be worth a try?
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Old 08-04-07, 10:40 PM
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Bow String: BCY '02
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I'm willing to try anything (within reason)
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Old 09-04-07, 12:05 AM
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And - (just throwing ideas around)

What would happen if you wore a pair of specs, with the lens of the affected eye blacked out except for a clear circle in the middle?
That would look really cool and professional you know.

Would this stop any picture forming on the affected part of your eye, effectively blinkering your eye while the other eye stays open until you're ready to aim proper?

No- I dunno either...but might be worth a try?
Interesting, KC. It would be worthwhile to check if such specs would contravene any FITA or other organization's rules about additional aiming devices. It could be construed as such. Check with an official.
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Old 13-04-07, 01:29 AM
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Getting around this one?

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diabetic retinopathy and CSR are different in that diabetic retinopathy is blood vessel seepage into the lining of the eye, What I'm suffering from is so my opthomalagist says is fluid like cysts forming deep in the wall of my eyes. no known cause but linked with stress and sleep deprivation, the sleep deprivation I can relate too, suffering from mild sleep apnea.
I suffer from sleep apnoea and can only get a good night's sleep with a CPAP ventilator. I would definitely go and get your OSA rechecked again because it does worsen. Are you overweight? Hypertensive? Do you snore loudly? If any of these are 'yes' go and see your GP.

Colin
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