Not sure what to do.

[geoffretired]

This may seem over simplistic, but it works. Don't try to stop her from twisting the wrist. Try to get her to START a different/new draw. In other words learn something new.( better )
It's like the boy who picks his nose; don't tell him to stop doing it, give him a huge box to carry that requires two hands.
For example; can you start the draw with the release at 45 degrees and keep it that way all through the draw?
If the draw is started high enough, she will be able to see the draw hand most of the way back, out of the corner of her eye.While that new method is being learnt, it is best that she is not worried about having to hit a small gold at a long distance.

[Moose]

I have tried getting her to draw differently but the problem comes at the end of the draw as she settles in to her anchor point it is at this point that she over rotates. (her draw sequence has her rotating towards the end of the draw just as the poundage lets off.

But you have given me an idea if the picture showing the release position does not work, I might borrow some different release aids and get her to try them. If they do not rotate on the head then she will get feedback from the string, hopefully this will let her feel more comfortable with the release at a shallower angle.

I would like her to try a stan X but at £130 it is a little expensive to experiment with, I like the ability to position the trigger giving her the trigger position without to much rotation.

Carter maybe the way to go but which one is a problem and again they are expensive.

Keep coming with the advice everything helps

[geoffretired]

I always shot with a finger trigger, wrist strap release. The draw and references are all made with the back of the hand uppermost and horizontal. If she could use one for a few sessions, the difference might be enough to get the new draw happening i.e. one without too much rotation.Once that has been experienced, it could help with the hand held release. The bigger the difference between the two styles, the easier it is to learn the new one.

[Adam]

You said that she ends up with her litle finger behind her ear and her hand over-rotated. Sound to me like her draw length is way too long. I've tried to replicate what she seems to be doing, and I can;t rotate my hand that far because my head gets in the way.

Maybe you should shorten her draw length a load (difficult to know how much without a picture, but I'd guess at least an inch, probably more). If she physically can't rotate her hand that far, then she won't. Perhaps it's that simple.

Adam

[Moosette]

The draw length is as short as it can go... i also have shot with a wrist release i hated every second using it!

[Fugue]

I agree with what Adam said, it sounds like the draw length may be too long. Tru-ball releases are quite long between the jaws and the "grip" which will exaggerate this.

Can you shorten the D loop a bit?

It might be worth trying a different (Carter style) release aid to see if that helps. If the bow is set on minimum draw length can you borrow another bow to try that out?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Moosette

The draw length is as short as it can go... i also have shot with a wrist release i hated every second using it!

Hmm. I assume you've got cam & 1/2 on a Selina? If so, shat number cams do you have? Can you get them swapped for a smaller cam to give you both a shorter draw length and some room to adjust it?

As I said before, a pic of you a full draw would help here.

Adam

[Moose]

Originally Posted by Adam

Hmm. I assume you've got cam & 1/2 on a Selina? If so, shat number cams do you have? Can you get them swapped for a smaller cam to give you both a shorter draw length and some room to adjust it?

As I said before, a pic of you a full draw would help here.

Adam

I will try and get one so that you can all see her.

The bow was bought with the cams carefully selected to give the same draw length when set to minimum as the Rintec she had before (25"). she does have the bow string on her nose which lengthens the apparent draw length, it may be that we try and loose the nose reference, but I feel that this would be a step backward as having more refences is proberbly better and we just need her to get used to angling the release at 45 degrees.

I think a deep hand position may help as well as she has a light grip on the release.

[Moose]

Originally Posted by Fugue

I agree with what Adam said, it sounds like the draw length may be too long. Tru-ball releases are quite long between the jaws and the "grip" which will exaggerate this.

Can you shorten the D loop a bit?

It might be worth trying a different (Carter style) release aid to see if that helps. If the bow is set on minimum draw length can you borrow another bow to try that out?

The D-loop was shortened (by Aard) and she uses a truball extreme release, but a Carter maybe shorter, she does not like my Saturday night special and this is about the shortest on the market.

There are a few archers at the club with release aids I may be able to borrow, she will just have to be patient and try all the releases until we find one that works.

[Moosette]

I could try and shoot with my arm straight-ish.(if that helps)


i shot a recurve (aargh) and got my white and black arrow award with a beginners bow!...