Not sure what to do.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Moosette

I could try and shoot with my arm straight-ish.(if that helps)

You should very definitely be shooting with your bow arm straight - or almost completely straight. I'd still like to see a pic of you at full draw.

Adam

[dino1300]

Hi

There are some very good pictures available from the recent World champs.

Have a look how the best compounders in the world are shooting. There must be a reason

http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...664#post131664

We had a lad at our club who did exactly the same thing. I.e. during the settling phase he would #### the wrist out and stick his little finger behind his ear. This was NOT good. This was mainly because after drawing the bow, he would unload any use of the back muscles by dropping his draw shoulder forward (the wrong way). This meant that instead of still maintaining the draw and pressures, he was now static on the shot, just waiting to yank / punch the trigger.

There are many things that you can do to stop this, but they all require you to accept that things are going to get worse before they get better. This may only take a few hours, or a few months, but it will take a lot of work.

so:

Remember that it is still a bow, just more accurate due to the scope, release aid and the increased speed. For the most part (90%) of the mechanical drawing of the bow, there is no difference between recurve and compound. You still need a strong set up, weight held on the back muscles and very little tension in the bow and drawing hand.

Look to have a feeling of connecting the bow hand and drawing elbow through the back muscles. Start this from the first movement of the draw until the arrow has stopped quivering in the target.

Use a 3 stage draw, but maintain the pressure as above.
0 - pre-draw set up.
1 - First phase. Break the bow over the peak, using correct form.
2 - Second phase. Relax the arm muscles a bit to release the added tension from the peak, and transfer effort onto lower scapula on both sides. get all reference points sorted out. Peep, finger along jaw line, sight into rough aim. DON'T relax back pressure, you should still feel that the front hand and back elbow are connected by a rubber band across your back.
3 - Third phase. Pick up the pressures in a 50-50 balance through the lower scapula muscles, just like you would if you were activating the shot through a clicker. With the compound this can be more subtle. Nail the spot where you want to aim whilst applying extra pressure. Imagine the drawing elbow being pulled around behind you. This is the release point. Don’t back off on the power until the arrow is safely in the target.

Have a look at http://www.kslinternationalarchery.com/ I know it looks recurve, but he has coached compound as well to an extremely high level

[Moose]

Having seen the picture and listening to what you guys have said she decided to listen to dad (wonders will never cease) and this improved her grouping dramatically. I have also been reading James Parks books and tried a deeper grip on the release aid this helped in stopping her turn her hand because she has a deeper grip the muscles in her arms do not like the twist so the release is at about 75 to 80 degrees along with her hand.

Additionally she now gets what I say to her about squeezing the shot rather than pressing the trigger as she can now feel how the trigger moves because it is deeper in to the thumb and was getting more of a suprise release (the strange squeek when the shot executed told me she did not expect it)

I am still open to suggestions as we work through this quirk of hers

She still has some way to go and I will send a picture to those who want to see it (Adam / Geoff) PM your e-mail address so I can attch it when I take one this Friday