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| Daniel that is a very interesting post, thanks for your input ![]() | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Lots of good input from coaches here. My wife coaches to a reasonable level (she's county coach and was previously going for senior coach until life got in the way) and also is an MB archer (of course, the ladies get MB much easier than us blokes ). She gives a lot of her time to improving the shooting of others but she has a fairly unique talent... she can give up shooting for 6 months and go out and shoot better than she did when she was practicing!! I don't know how she does it, and it's very very annoying ![]() I also coach but have never become "qualified" - The primary reason is that I believe I know "enough" to coach at the level I do without putting anyone in danger, and believe that I can even perhaps help a little. The secondary reason is that I simply don't have the time to be worrying about gaining "cpd points", go on courses or attend a conference, amongst all of the other things I do - I can see the purpose of these things of course, but they're not for me right now and being an unqualified meddler permits me the freedom to improve and expand my knowledge at my pace and in my own way. The final reason is that, as a qualified coach, I would be asked to put time into other events and may even feel beholden to get involved in running other courses etc that I would otherwise not be involved in - as it stands I can volunteer if I see fit, otherwise I get to stay out of it. Don't get me wrong, I admire those who go through the coaching courses and become qualified, then strive to be the best they can be - that's great stuff, but the more pressure we put on coaches to become more "professional" in their learning and their approach, the more we have to realise that they have to get a bit more in return than a warm fuzzy feeling - unfortunately this is not a professional sport and we're not there yet. I would also say (and this may be seen as a little controversial, as well as a little off-topic) that if all the other volunteers in the sport were encouraged to take a similar approach to professional development (e.g. the committe members, the directors, etc) then we might be in a much better position as a sport - our leaders are, in most respects unqualified meddlers - surely not a good position for any forward looking organisation. Where's the recommendations for leadership, project management, business administration qualifications? ![]()
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| Bowcoach, your post is interesting full of information and very encouraging. I will look back at it when I feel low, thanks for that. Murray,before I qualified, I felt much the same way you do now. I can see no reason why you should change. The paperwork is a bit of a drag, but once the habit is started, it is no big deal(and I hate paperwork!) Getting points for renewal makes good sense, as you say, it's a shame that distance learning isn't one of the accepted methods; there's much to be learnt from this forum, yet it doesn't qualify. |
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Under the new Level 1-5 coaching, distance learning will be used more and more, the higher up trainees go. Iain.
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| Daniel, Lots of interesting points in your post. I'm sure this will open up some debate. Personally, I know that somewhere I have a list of the 90+ jobs a Coach has to be able to do to be a Coach, I'm going to have to look it out.... Iain.
__________________ Meddler. n. an officious annoying person who interferes with others. Some people have something to say. Others have to say something... |
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| all very interesting... i started shooting and a couple of years later became a 'qualified' gnas coach, and for several years - about 4 found it very hard to keep focussed on my own shooting when it was my turn to shoot. I've had just under a year of being back in shooting, after a 3 yr break for my studies at university, and it has made a huge change in my abilities. i had a break from physically shooting, but i still thought alot of about shooting. i did some coaching/teaching, and now i am quite happy to coach and shoot in the same session, and have no bearing on how i'm shooting. i think i've managed to separate the two, and stop them interfering with each other. coaching for me, is about learning how others think and react, knowing how to push, what to say to inspire, encourage, support etc, i'd aspire to be like bowcoach. i know a bit about tuning - but it's the mental side that will make or break an archer, and it's like that for all sports!?! if you do become a coach, make it very clear to others when you're available to coach/teach. (make sure you're clear in your head too!!)
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| Meddler, thanks for the reply. I am glad distance learning is on its way. Will it come my way ,I wonder? ![]() |
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| I thought I would add this to the discussion… This video, while not directly related to archery illustrates perfectly what I have tried to imply by my suggestion that a coaches greatest strength may lie in his ability to interpret ideas and communicate concepts to his/her students. The fact that the teacher in this video is a master violinist becomes almost inconsequential when compared to his ability to communicate and motivate his students. I hope you coaches out there find this as interesting as I. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQRpa4u3EYE Cheers, -Daniel |
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| It is possible to keep the two of them going but you need to be able to be distinct about it. Maybe Coaches wearing a coaching uniform (or wearing a T-shirt which says, "I'm shooting - ask somebody else") is the way forward. This idea has been put forward in the National Source Group.. I don't think that people going on Coaching courses should be there to improve their own shooting (if it happens it is a bonus). They are there to help other people improve. above quoted from meddler sorry item one does NOT work. i know, trust me. various reasons ... people will always come up to you, people have been known to say ."but your the club coach" etcetc the coaching course can teach you how to put things over and the basics but you start learning to coach when you actually start coaching every archer is different and there are many ways to shoot an arrow. the right way, the wrong way, the way that works. this post is a mine field. sorry for the input pete. coach, |
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