Become a coach - at what peril?

Originally Posted by not dead yet

sorry item one does NOT work. i know, trust me. various reasons ... people will always come up to you, people have been known to say ."but your the club coach" etcetc

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We're lucky, as we have a 90M private practice (no coaching) area so we don't have to shoot where we coach, I've also heard of coaches joining 2 clubs (one to shoot in only)

[Murray]

Originally Posted by not dead yet

Isorry item one does NOT work. i know, trust me.

I disagree. It works at our club, therefore it can work at others - it's all part of the education process.

[not dead yet]

Originally Posted by Murray

I disagree. It works at our club, therefore it can work at others - it's all part of the education process.

so your coaches still shoot at MB level and coach, thats great tell me more, and do they also coach national squad.

not havin a dig genuine question

pete

[Murray]

Yes, my wife is our primary club coach (county level) and shoots at MB level (has done for the last 3 years), and yes last year she was coaching the national squad (she was invited as an archer or a coach - last year she went as an archer, this year as a coach). In addition to this she was injured most of last year, so only managed a dozen or so MB scores.

Our other coaches don't shoot at quite such a high level, but simply because they choose not to put in the time (one of them is also a senior coach, one of the National Coaching Organisers for scotland and Coach Education Officer for GNAS so reasonably busy - i.e. up and down to Lilleshall nearly every weekend). - but he could, if he wished to drop NCP/CEO roles, shoot at MB level.

Our club members are taught from the very beginning that the coaches will be available to take questions when they're not shooting themselves. The coaches to give up their time on a regular basis to coach 1-to-1 or 3 or 4-to-1. We also set up additional sessions from time to time to give intensive coaching to the club. Everyone is aware that summer time is pretty much shooting time for the coaches (and yes, we use the "if I'm wearing the yellow hat, I'm in coach mode" trick - works well in our club at least).

[Little Miss Purple]

Originally Posted by Murray

Our other coaches don't shoot at quite such a high level, but simply because they choose not to put in the time (one of them is also a senior coach, one of the National Coaching Organisers for scotland and Coach Education Officer for GNAS so reasonably busy - i.e. up and down to Lilleshall nearly every weekend). - but he could, if he wished to drop NCP/CEO roles, shoot at MB level.

Does this answer not highlight the fact that coaching etc DOES have an effect on shooting albeit through choice or not??

My coaching consists of the odd tip when I'm shooting with my coach - this is not pre-arranged times and not set blocks of allocated time to coaching...... my point here....

How do you define coaching re: time input, 1:1 time, group coaching, etc.

If I was asking to be coached for an hour that would have a different impact to my coach's shooting time than if we were shooting together.

[TWIW]

Originally Posted by mk1

The problems for a coach are: -

Giving up your own shooting time to teach others. I got round that by having a practise night or two to myself :-) when beginners classes were on. Not all Clubs have the luxury of extra nights being available, and at many Clubs coaches and helpers often can't shoot for the weeks classes are being run.

After the courses, then you have the improvers and giving out all the advice -often ignored . Again this interrups your own practise or eat up extra evenings.

It makes it hard for coaches to progress their own shooting, so they often don't get very good and then get criticised for it!

Coaches are often expected to be the fount of all knowledge - which is not impossible!! PhD in arrow selection and bow tuning anyone??

Having said all that it can be very rewarding watching someone improve or achieve a new skill and grow in confidence.

I go aslong with Brian & Muriel on this too.

Colin

[TWIW]

Daniel, you are so right. Communication is, in my opinion 90% of coaching all the technical stuff hangs on that.

Colin

[TWIW]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

We're lucky, as we have a 90M private practice (no coaching) area so we don't have to shoot where we coach, I've also heard of coaches joining 2 clubs (one to shoot in only)

John. I've done that when I was shooting in SCAS: Shot in Buckinghamshire, coached in Bedfordshire.

Colin