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16-04-07, 12:24 PM
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Not onerous... any one who is serious about Coaching can do the CPD quite easily. A Level 1 Coach requires to genetrate 10 CPD points... 3 attendances at a Regional Coaching Conference will do it (well almost). Working with Higher Level Coaches on an Event gets 5 points - do that twice and there you go - 10 CPD points.... Quote:
What you are suggesting is a bit like saying that you want to do a driving test, but you only want to be able to drive in first gear all the time, and that you have no use for reverse or the other gears, or indeed the indicators... As to getting into the previous system - was that any easier? The Coach level exam was too high for lots of people, and the Assistant Coach was regarded with a certain amount of scepticism. Come on people, get a grip here... If you want half way decent Coaching, you don't hand the badge / licence out to any numpty in off the street who wants one. If you want half way decent Coaching, you have to train the people. Archery is a technical sport - it involves a damn sight more than running around after a leather bladder and kicking it. If you don't get the grounding right, then you screw up someone's archery career, and lose that person. Your choice... if you think the qualification is too difficult, then don't do it. [/RANT]
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16-04-07, 12:47 PM
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| I don't think the qualification is difficult (as in unobtainable) but it does take up many weekends of training and therefor missed competitions. Even if I did want to become a coach to help others I wouldn't do it due to this factor alone! 
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16-04-07, 01:26 PM
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| I do believe I would like to coach but know I couldn't do it as I would like to if I also want to shoot. I don't have a coach but I have attended various things organised by my various counties: in those I have had senior coaches (the would be level 4?) who have not been helpful to me and yet level 1 coaches that have. It is still the case that what level the certificate says is not related to the level of the coach: it might be related to the level of the meetings the coach attends, but not to the experience that I find I would need whenever I need help. It must also be said perhaps some of these issues are related to fact that when I met these coaches they were not prepared to be a personal coach to me. Only once, very briefly, did I find a coach who I could accept that also was prepared to accept me, this helped me break though a block at about the 1210 level. When I did need this help the two county level coaches in my area couldn't provide it, not that they weren't good but that they weren't experienced enough to even help someone at 1210: not what I would consider a very high level. Fundamentally still in this country if you want to do well at archery and you are not a junior in most cases you must set up a method of coaching yourself or get lucky that one of the few experienced coaches happens to be available to you. I hope one day to put my experience to use in a small way, but not yet I'm still shooting  .
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16-04-07, 02:02 PM
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| For once chain pulling was not included in my post. If level 1 is the basic coaching then fine, it is still onerous to complete timewise, as has already been suggested. I can think of a number of Archers who will not step onto the ladder as the first rung takes too much time. Yes we need correctly and appropriately trained coaches, but we also need as system that leads people into it. If we don't have a "say" Level 0 "non coach" call it as you will then Archers will still help beginners/improving members, after all very little will stop them, as this I would guess is how the majority of improvement in the sport is undertaken. But wouldn't it be better to get some of them some training after all some is better than none? The previous system was no better but we need to improve on both. What we have got to remember that the majority of Archers take the sport seriously, but for most archery is for enjoyment the systems should be there to help them.
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16-04-07, 02:29 PM
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Some info Level 1 - should be completed in around 6 months, with the order of 30 hours of formal training, and the rest being supported practice and assessment. which has to be completed within 1 year of the last classroom day. It is based in "On the job" training, access to more experienced Coaches, mentors etc. All of the supported training is done in the Club. Which is why the Club has to indicate that they are willing to support the candidate's application. We on the NSG are always open to ideas for improvement, so if you have a suggestion, send it in, and it will be looked at.
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16-04-07, 04:55 PM
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| On a purely selfish note, I'd hate to see competitions restricted to certain classes, if only because I can't drive much more than about 100 miles in total and shoot all day - it's too tiring for me, and those friends of mine who are likely to give me a lift, are all CLASSES ahead of me.... my point? if we can't shoot in the same competitions, I couldn't shoot full stop ! On a less selfish point, I think it's good for everyone - those at the top and those just starting to compete together. Those at the bottom can pick a lot up from watching those at the top, and if they keep their eyes open, watching those coming up behind, may keep those at the top on their toes a wee bit !!
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16-04-07, 10:09 PM
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| I like mixaed ability competitions too. But to encourage the less proficientg archer I would like to see more use of the handicap system for the award of prizes. As for Coach training: The level 1 course is not difficult or time consuming, but it does require committment. Therefore if you have any doubts about doing the training I would suggest you're not ready to become a Coach. You could of course become a Coach through invitation based upon your sustained archery success in International competitions ......... Colin | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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16-04-07, 11:06 PM
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But just happens to be run at the same time as competitons - usually the best one's!! 
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16-04-07, 11:39 PM
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16-04-07, 11:43 PM
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When I'm happy to let my archery slip in order to coach, I will probably be happy to miss the relevant competitions that the training clashes with 
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