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Old 13-04-08, 11:00 PM
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Post A little help

Can anyone check some of the stuff i'm doing wrong?
I'm really into archery and I would like to hear your opinions.

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Old 17-04-08, 02:00 PM
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What do you mean a clicker, i'm already using one...


And thanks for the advice, i just think it's easier to be consistent if you don't pause much. But maybe i'm wrong.
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Old 17-04-08, 06:06 PM
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Riser: Yamaha Eolla
Limbs: Yamaha Eolla Carbon41#
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Hi there. I'm not really experienced enough to be dishing out advice, but I did notice something. All looks great, but after your shots your bow is sometimes hitting your body, and sometimes swinging by. Your bow arm seems not to move during your follow through, so is there possibly something that you are doing to cause this inconsistancy? Canting your bow? Your grip?
As I said I'm not qualifie here, so maybe someone else can comment on this.
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Old 17-04-08, 06:22 PM
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It all looks pretty good to me, The inconsistancy with the bow swinging past you sometimes and clipping you others could be dow to your bow hand its not really clear to see but you look to be "flicking" your fingers away from the grip after the release (better than grabbing it I guess) a close up video of your bow hand may help you see it
Also just curious what poundage are your limbs ?
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Old 17-04-08, 07:02 PM
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I'd say your shot cycle is fine the way it is - if you can aim and get a controlled shot off that quickly there is no point in slowing the cycle down.

You need to do some work on your back tension - difficult to say 100% from the video but it looks like your string hand follow through is quite slow, usually a sign of poor back tension. Do you find you sometimes get variation in your groups - low left or right arrows?
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Old 17-04-08, 07:22 PM
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You need to do some work on your back tension - difficult to say 100% from the video but it looks like your string hand follow through is quite slow, usually a sign of poor back tension. Do you find you sometimes get variation in your groups - low left or right arrows?
Thats the way I was thinking when I asked about his poundage
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Old 17-04-08, 07:32 PM
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Thats the way I was thinking when I asked about his poundage
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Old 17-04-08, 07:56 PM
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You need to do some work on your back tension - difficult to say 100% from the video but it looks like your string hand follow through is quite slow, usually a sign of poor back tension. Do you find you sometimes get variation in your groups - low left or right arrows?
Yeah sometimes i make 2 distinctive groups, and i admit that and i don't use much back tension, don't know why... 3 months ago i was doing it perfectly and don't remember when i stopped. Maybe someone could tell me a way to practice without using a bow.

The poundage doesn't reach 37.

i'm not very consistent on my form but i'm still in the process of changing it, luckly i only started archery a bit more than a year and i'm still in time to easily change it.
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Old 17-04-08, 08:09 PM
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Limbs: Hex5-H 41# on fingers
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Yeah sometimes i make 2 distinctive groups, and i admit that and i don't use much back tension, don't know why... 3 months ago i was doing it perfectly and don't remember when i stopped. Maybe someone could tell me a way to practice without using a bow.

The poundage doesn't reach 37.

i'm not very consistent on my form but i'm still in the process of changing it, luckly i only started archery a bit more than a year and i'm still in time to easily change it.
Ways of working on back tension (not all without a bow):

Treat the draw as a continuous process that starts with the predraw and ends with your arrow in the target and you in the follow through position. The release is just an intermediate stage in the draw rather than the end of it. Trigger words for the draw that you can think of as you do it: confident and powerful.

Beg or borrow a back tension release aid, and shoot your recurve using it. If you can't get a true BT release aid, use a trigger one and get your coach/an experienced archer to trigger it when you reach reference, but without you anticipating the trigger. The effect if your back tension is right is that your drawing hand will come back (initially along the jawline) very quickly - as you imagine would happen in a tug of war if someone cut the rope!

Use clini band to practice whenever you can, focussing on the feeling in the back muscles

Let your release be a relaxation of the fingers, and no more. The string will push your fingers out of the way, don't worry about trying to open them up. Once you've got this STOP THINKING ABOUT IT.

Ideally, get a good coach to help you.
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Old 17-04-08, 08:16 PM
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I have a good coach.
But since his english is quite poor (he's korean, Myung young lee) it might be badly interperted by me...

Thank you for the advice.
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