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Old 11-06-07, 01:28 PM
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Question Need Some Upgrading Advice

Dear All,

I am in the process of planning some upgrades to my current setup:

Bow - SF Riser and GSF Limbs (36Lbs)
Sight - Petron Chrome
Stabs - Cartel Carbon Long and Shorts, AGF V-BAR
Arrows - Easton A/C/C 28.5" 3L-18

I want to upgrade all of it apart from my riser, as at long distances I am finding myself inverting my sight to reach the target, but want to do it in stages and need to prioritise each upgrade.

I have some ideas of what items I want to buy, but are not sure which will make the best improvement for the best value. Iv been told that upgrading my arrows to A/C/E's would make the most difference but I cant help thinking that upgrading my limbs to 38Lbs carbons would be more beneficial.

What are your views on the situation? And do you think Hoyt M1 limbs would be a good buy for the money or hold out and save a little more for something better?

I want to also get a nice set of stabilizers; I have been looking at the new Merlin Triad system, but for the money is there better out there?

Thanks

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Old 12-06-07, 12:26 AM
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Kind of in reverse order:
Stabilisers. No immediate reason to upgrade them (unless they are falling apart). They will have a minimal effect on your scores.

M1s. No direct experience of them, but scuttlebutt had them as more popular than G3s in the US. They are (as I understand it) an upgraded Hoyt Carbon+, which was Hoyt's flagship limb for umpteen years. Be aware that 38lb M1s are probably about the same weight as 36lb GSFs on your handle. Almost certainly faster though - there are differences in the way limbs are weighed.

Limb/arrow upgrades. These more or less have to be done in tandem, unless your current shafts are too stiff for your current limbs. Are your current limbs wound up all the way?
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Old 12-06-07, 09:43 AM
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Kind of in reverse order:
Stabilisers. No immediate reason to upgrade them (unless they are falling apart). They will have a minimal effect on your scores.

M1s. No direct experience of them, but scuttlebutt had them as more popular than G3s in the US. They are (as I understand it) an upgraded Hoyt Carbon+, which was Hoyt's flagship limb for umpteen years. Be aware that 38lb M1s are probably about the same weight as 36lb GSFs on your handle. Almost certainly faster though - there are differences in the way limbs are weighed.

Limb/arrow upgrades. These more or less have to be done in tandem, unless your current shafts are too stiff for your current limbs. Are your current limbs wound up all the way?
Hi Rik,

Thanks for you input on the matter. Answering you question, my current arrows are slightly stiff for my limbs, in the T6 range, but I have my limbs wound in quite allot, Chucking out 38-39Lbs.

Could you please explain what you mean by the weight of the M1 limbs? Are you referring to the poundage or weight in the hand?

I have also noticed that Bowsports is selling Winex limbs for cheaper than M1's. Must be a better buy, if they feel ok on the bow, surely?

Thanks

Paul
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Old 12-06-07, 05:59 PM

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Hi Fezza
I have recently upgraded my bow to the Sf riser, 36lb SHC limbs & 27.75'' Navigators. Lovely to shoot & reaches 80yds with my olympic sight set out at full. Good value for money & would recommend these limbs as an upgrade.
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Old 12-06-07, 06:03 PM
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The Winex limbs are great. You could easily pull and hold a 40# set then change to ACE's and reach 100 yars with your sight right out. The Triads are great but they are only stabilisers at the end of the day.
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Old 13-06-07, 08:40 PM
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Thanks for all of your input on the matter. But in your opinion, what would give me the best improvement to my sight marks and set up?

1. Buying a new set of Easton A/C/E's, or
2. Buying a set of 38Lbs Winex limbs.

I’m trying justify one over the other.

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Old 13-06-07, 09:38 PM
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hello mate, with my Winex limbs i have 38lb on my fingers, and my Redlines reach 100 yards no problem... doesnt mean they go where i want to yet! but they get that distance and still have plenty of power to dig in.

i think redlines are slightly lighter than ACC but not a hell of a lot so.
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Old 13-06-07, 10:26 PM
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I find that with my draw length and arrows, my 34# G3's reach 80 yards with a fully extended sight, and possibly fully extended at 100 (I've not tried in a long time). As for arrows, I've noticed no difference in my scores between shooting the ACEs I used to have and the Navigators I have now, although I think the ACEs were a little stiff for my bow at the time.
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Old 14-06-07, 10:55 AM
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Given their current price drop I'd go for some Winex limbs.

If you are already wound right in on the SF limbs then get some heavier Winex and wind the riser back out to match, then you've got some more play as your strength increases. (And as you do so the arrows will get less stiff of course )
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Old 14-06-07, 11:58 AM
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Riser: SF Super forged
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You wouldnt want to go and spend all that dosh on some ACE's and then upgrade the limbs at a later date and have trouble tuning them

WINEX are a good buy at the moment!
(There are also winact limbs going for £150 on altservices marketplace if you are really short on cash, a lot better than the GSF anyways)
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