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Old 02-08-07, 06:57 PM
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string problem! dental floss nocking points

I have a string problem and would like to know how to sovle it, mainly i would like someone to explain to me how that you put dental floss on as a nocking point. I would like some help into how to attaching dental floss to my string

any help would be wonderful
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Old 02-08-07, 08:24 PM
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I've seen a couple of ways of doing this,

Wrap the floss around the string, then tie an overhand knot. Repeat the wrap and knot tying until you get the size you need. Tie a double overhand knot to finish. Trim the ends, even singe off with a cigarette lighter. Dab a little drop of Fastset on the nock point and very quickly rub in. Keep your fingers moving in case of permanent attachment.

I’ve read that you should whip the floss on in a similar method of starting and ending a serving. Trim and glue as above.

I maybe wrong but it works for me
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Old 02-08-07, 09:09 PM
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Why didn't you ask when you were down Rich? I'd have put 2 on for you!
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Old 02-08-07, 09:40 PM
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i do it similar to cestria but tie a knot at both the front AND back of the string on each wrap then just a dab of superglue (no singeing) at the end

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Old 02-08-07, 10:03 PM
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Cestria has virtually got it.
I've used it for many years now, and it is quite simple but fiddley.
When you start off, take a length about 12". Holding both ends try and wind one over the other keeping it tight. Once you have done 2 -3 times you can let the one side loose and concentrate on the run of the other (one thing it tends to do is follow the serving). Once you see a reasonable size ball test with an arrow and see if it sits correct on the mark or needs slight adjustment, this can be done by adding a turn or two on the side. Try to keep it to a minimum size, and once you are happy holding the floss tight just apply a midges of the super-glue rubbing it in with the finger. Cut off the excess and once more apply the glue with a generous dose. Note that there is no need to apply a knot in it, as the glue soaks in and bonds it and if done correct it will last. (This doesn't mean an inspection would go a miss when setting up.) The only point I would raise is that when applying the glue try not to get it on the serving where the arrow sits as the glue can in fact put a coat on the serving and make the knock feel tighter..............

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Old 02-08-07, 10:17 PM
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Dental floss nock points are good, but if you put superglue on them you may as well just put 2 brass nock sets on!! They rip your tab as well as superglued dental floss. Flossed nock points should be barrelled so the nock sits snug between them, then, lightly heated with a lighter to amalgamate the fibres, I've been doing this for 20 years and it's still the best way IMHO
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Old 02-08-07, 10:31 PM
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I tried dental floss nocks for a while, supposedly sealing them with a lighter. But after a while they worked loose and worked their way up the serving. For ages I couldn't understand why my sight marks kept drifting until I checked my nock and it was 3/4 inch too high! I've gone back to brass.
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Old 02-08-07, 11:19 PM
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Serving thread!

method as earlier for dental floss:
Tie a 6" length round your string just above the arrow with just a single simple knot. Then tie another knot around back just above the original thread (we are working away from the arrow here) then add 8 more knots alternatively front and back of the string to build up a block of knotted serving thread. Cut the thread 1/2" from the last knot and set fire to the ends to form a nylon bead in the same way that compounders do with d-loops. The nylon bead prevents the thread coming undone. If by chance the nylon bead comes off and the nocking point begins to undo, just set fire to the loose ends again and the nocking point is good to go.
do the bottom nocking point exactly the same except that you start underneath the arrow, but still work away from the arrow building up the knots.
I find that waxing the serving thread before use makes the knots easier to tie.

I have used this method for several years having experimented with other methods. Durable, easy to put on, easy to do running repairs in the field and kind to your tab or arm.

Alternative method, soak dental floss or strips of masking tape in super glue, wind tightly round the string to form a nocking point, now try to put the bow down, visit hospital. Superglue is rubbish for this kind of application. It forms too hard a finish and often results in the nocking point cracking off the string and floating up and down. I also was told that superglue produces heat when it cures, and that heat is enough to damage the polyester in the bowstring fibres
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Old 03-08-07, 08:31 AM
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i use a top nocking point made of a very thin strip of masking tape. Cut a strip with a ruler and a knife about 2mm wide and coat in superglue, wrap around in place of a nock and when its done give it a quick coat of glue to seal it. And i use a very small tie on bottom nock made from normal cotton thread.

was shown this by one of the guys at the club and have been using this for the last year instead of the brass i was using before. thier solid and dont wander about
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Old 03-08-07, 06:02 PM
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The thing with superglue is not to apply too much. Just one very tiny drop to prevent the nocking points from moving. The knot tying method works great for me. A lot less time consuming than the "serving" method, and performs the same in the end.
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