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Old 02-08-07, 08:43 PM
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Indoor Season Again

I'm starting to think forward to the indoor season. This brings a decision on the choice of arrow. I have a fancy to try a “Fat” carbon but I’m not sure if I’ll be better of with a big Ali one instead.

The choice would be Carbon Express Hippo, Carbon Impact Fat, or Easton Fat Boys or something around 23** or 24** X7. I’m shooting about 42lb on my fingers which is becoming easier each time I shoot, but I had a thought to wind a couple of pound off to have an easier time indoor.

I have some 5” Flonite hunter spin wing from last year, but I’ve been doing a little trad shooting and have really got to enjoy shooting feather so had thought about a 5” feather.

Any thoughts?
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Old 02-08-07, 10:11 PM
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With 42lb you'll struggle to get anything more than a 21xx to tune well.

I tried 2312's a long time ago (back when 25xx were still legal and all the compound archers were shooting them).

They looked great and flew c&*p - even with big heavy piles (they were 29.75" and I was holding about 44lb'ish)

My advice would be X7's - very durable and precision shafts.

I get away with 2114's, I've tried 2014's but prefer a stiffer shaft (within reason).

Carbon doesn't take to well to the types of impact you're likely to get indoors.

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Old 03-08-07, 09:08 AM
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My personal choice is 2115 xx75's with 4" feathers If you're shooting on a single spot the feathers mean you're not constantly re-fletching.

Whats your draw length? Are you using a clicker, and if so what type?
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Old 03-08-07, 10:05 AM
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Whats your draw length? Are you using a clicker, and if so what type?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm using a clicker which is a Beiter black blade, my arrows are 29.5".
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Old 03-08-07, 11:10 AM
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As Simon suggested I'd go for nothing above a 21, also remember that if you're shooting single spot, once you're looking to get a good number of tens you can start bouncing off your own arrows. In theory if you were really determined to get fat arrows you could use a clicker that hangs off the sight bar and some longer shafts.

When I'm shooting towards 30 golds on a pourtsmouth a few arrows will bounce off and into the nine and i'm not always sure the line cutters justify it. But i think you'd need to be shooting >570 pourtsmouths to really notice, so i'll stick with the fat alis for now
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Old 03-08-07, 03:22 PM
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Thanks for that
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Old 03-08-07, 03:45 PM
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Not sure I understand the bit about "...go for nothing above a 21...". I shoot a 40# recurve (barebow) at my 32.75" draw. My indoor arrows of choice (after trying Navigators and ACCs) are 2214 X7s. I use the Easton one piece 100g point and fletch with FlexFletch 2.5" vanes. Unless I screw up the release I get decent arrow flight and surprising accuracy. If I ever wear out the 2214s I've thought I would try 2312s as they spine about the same.

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Old 03-08-07, 10:48 PM
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Not sure I understand the bit about "...go for nothing above a 21...". I shoot a 40# recurve (barebow) at my 32.75" draw.
Your 32.75" draw is hardly typical - that's why I was pretty sure my 21xx recommendation was (and is) valid for cestria.

There's always going to be an exception to the norm and you fall into that.

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Old 04-08-07, 05:31 PM
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Simon,

What I don't understad is the limitation in arrow diameter. I've seen any number of people with "normal" draw lengths shooting aluminum arrows larger in diameter than 21/64", with 2212s, 2213s and 2312s being some examples. Yes, they frequently leave them long and put heavy points in to weaken spine but they seem to think it is worth the tuning trouble to get the diameter. This is all for indoor shooting at 20 yards. Obviously YMMV!

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Old 13-08-07, 11:47 AM
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I don't want to just put you off using 'fat' arrows if thats what you've decided to do, but you know sometimes you can shoot much better with your normal outdoor arrows, maybe not in everyones case. But myself and a few people i know use there outdoors arrows indoors and still produce results.
Also it saves you having to change your set-up every season lol.

Just try shooting a round with your normal arrows before you try 'fatties' and see what works for you.
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