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Old 16-08-07, 11:06 AM
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Internal Movement

What does KSL mean by internal movement (or micro-movement)?

How do you go about 'feeling' it?
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Old 20-08-07, 10:09 AM
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Hi DivingBirdie,
I sent you a PM but since then have found the relevant paragraph in KSL website.
I can only tell you what I make of it; others may see it differently.
If you fix an arrow to a board so it can rotate around the nock, you could rotate the arrow 360 degrees etc. If you move the pile end about 1c.m. it will be clearly visible at that end. But, at the nock end, the movement will be all but undetectable. The movement there is micro-movement.
If you change from arrow pivoting at the nock, to drawing elbow movement, you will see much the same applies. At the last stages of the draw, the elbow moves a few m.m. but the shoulder blade/shoulder joint that supports the movement will move so slightly that it will be all but invisible. Perhaps he calls it "internal movement" because only the archer himself/herself, knows it is happening.
As to going about feeling it, that is like squeezing together your finger and thumb.You know you are squeezing, and how hard,even though nothing seems to be moving or happening.
I hope that helps.
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Old 20-08-07, 03:27 PM
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I don't know if I am doing it correct. The 'micro-movement' is quite painful even without a bow. ( I assume it is the process of bringing the scapulae together after hold/transfer? And suppose it can be felt without pulling a bow? )
I probably wouldn't be able to feel it with the 28# 68" I'm using..

I'm either doing it wrong or the BEST is more difficult to achieve than thought.
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Old 20-08-07, 03:47 PM
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DivingBirdie, I don't think the internal movement or micro movement should be something that hurts. I don't think it is something you do ON TOP of what you do already.
What I read into what he was saying was that the last little bits of the draw, for example, were produced at the shoulder/shoulder blade and would therefore be very difficult to see. You will feel that movement because you are aware that the muscles(whichever ones they are) are still working rather than stopped in one place.
If you stand with your arms out to the side, and your back against a wall, you can press the hands against the wall. Your hands don't move but you know you are using the muscles that would move them if the wall wasn't there. With the bow at full draw, instead of the wall, your hands can move a little, but you have to pull against the bow weight to make that movement happen. You know when you are working the muscles because the clicker eventually clicks, also you can feel the muscles are working harder.Much like they felt against the wall.
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