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Old 02-09-07, 06:30 PM
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what is considered as barebow for target archery

I have an old one peice border recurve bow. It is fitted with a plastic stick on hoyt arrow rest, but no sight.

I am interested in using it indoor next year in portsmouth shoots.

Would this be legal for barebow class or not?
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Old 02-09-07, 06:42 PM
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204. Recurve Barebow Recurve Barebow is generally as described for Recurve
(Freestyle) in Rule 202 with the following variations:
(a) Bow
(i) The bow must be bare, except for items mentioned below, and free from
protrusions, marks, blemishes or laminated pieces which could be of use in aiming.
Multi-coloured risers are permitted.
(ii) Integrally fitted torque flight compensators are permitted provided that they are not
fitted with stabilizers. Weights may be added to the lower part of the riser. All
weights, regardless of shape, must mount directly to the riser without rods,
extensions, angular mounting connections or shock absorbing devices.
(b) Bowstring. There shall be no attachment on the string to serve as a lip or nose mark.
(c) Arrowrest. The pressure point shall be placed no further than 2cm back (inside) from
the throat of the handle (pivot point) of the bow
(d) Exclusions. Recurve barebow archers may not use:
(i) Sights.
(ii) Draw check indicator.
(iii) Stabilizers.

I found this on GNAS website Rules of shooting, bowstyles.
Is that any help?
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Old 02-09-07, 08:13 PM
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Many thanks Goeff

I am clear and OK on B & D

C confuses me totally!

a i) I am also a little confused by. The bow has a sighting window (I think thats what it is called, it is an area of the riser whcih is cut out to allow the arrow to sit in the centre). Is that classed as something that can be used for aiming???
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Old 02-09-07, 08:40 PM
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C=the arrow rest must touch the arrow no further back (towards the archer) than 2c.m. from the throat of the grip. We usually want the arrow to contact the rest, just above the throat of the grip. It is possible to fix a plate to the riser and then fit a rest to that plate so that a shorter than normal arrow can be used;I think they are called overdraws. With one fitted you can shoot lighter and faster arrows which means sight marks are closer together. I know bare bow doesn't allow sights but they aim by other means and those means will be closer together, which you could say, makes it easier. Over draws are allowed but only short ones.
(i) The bow must be bare, except for items mentioned below, and free from
protrusions, marks, blemishes or laminated pieces which could be of use in aiming.
Multi-coloured risers are permitted.
That part is really about having no marks on the bow that could be used as a sighting aid. I have used the screw that holds on the clicker, to aim at things, just for fun, I was not shooting barebow and cheating.......!!
A scratch in the right place could be a very useful sight mark, so , not allowed.
As for the sight window, that is there to allow the arrow to rest on centre. It is called the sight window as the sight can be seen in that cut away part-if you have a sight; it is not a sighting device in itself.
I hope that helps.
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Old 02-09-07, 08:47 PM
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Geoff

That all makes perfect sense and thank you for the clarification. I am clear and OK on C. On D I may need to do a little work as the bow appears to have a plastic strip at the back of the riser that probably once held a sight of some kind, this is a bit mucked up and probably could be construed as a means of judging elevation. I need to find a way of clearing this up.
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Old 03-09-07, 09:09 AM
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I assume by "back of the riser" you mean facing you as you shoot, therefore visible. Screw holes would not be allowed, nor would traces that showed where it used to be.I would guess that the whole of that section of the riser would need to be blank, in the sense that you could not identify any one part of it.
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Question limb markings?

Was just wondering could the manufactures logo on the limbs be classed as an aiming aid as ive noticed many barebow archers with plain top limbs.

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Old 03-09-07, 06:26 PM
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my understanding is that you are probably right re manufacturers marking on limbs, which is why historically on a take down, the lower limb contains the markings.
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Old 03-09-07, 06:31 PM
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I assume by "back of the riser" you mean facing you as you shoot, therefore visible. Screw holes would not be allowed, nor would traces that showed where it used to be.I would guess that the whole of that section of the riser would need to be blank, in the sense that you could not identify any one part of it.
I fear the worse in that respect then, there is a plastic strip which I think may have been added to the back. It runs from approx 2" above the sighting window to the bottom of the sighting window and is attached with two screws top and bottom. I was planning to remove this but it will leave the two screw holes and even if I fill them there will be evidence of where they were!
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Old 03-09-07, 07:44 PM
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I'm not sure about the info being on the bottom limb for barebow regulations.
Just thinking that the sight window is where a sight would fit. Anything above that is unlikely to be of use for sighting.
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