Stabiliser - Arrow

[DivingBirdie]

Is the Long rod suppose to be parallel to the arrow...



Like this?

If yes, why? And if not... Why?

[Jerry Tee]

The point of a long rod is to gain the most effect from the lightest weight. This means mounting the mass of the of the end weight as far as possible from the riser. The more the long rod is angled away for straight ahead the more the distance from the riser is reduced.

[cestria]

Originally Posted by DivingBirdie

Is the Long rod suppose to be parallel to the arrow

If yes, why? And if not... Why?

My understanding of this is:
From the side as your image, it is unlikley that the arrow and long rod are parallel as your nock point is often many millimetres above square so the arrow is not at right angles to the string/hence the riser.
However the arrow and long rod should be parallel in the other two planes, ie. from above or below looking down the length of the bow and also from behind looking down the arrow and long rod.
Having said this I'm prepared to be shot down in flames for the above comments.

[pmiddl]

I didnt think the long rod and arrow should be parallel when viewed from above?? Thats why we set for centreshot and move the button so the arrow point is just slightly outside the centre line of the bow

[Panama]

Originally Posted by pmiddl

I didnt think the long rod and arrow should be parallel when viewed from above?? Thats why we set for centreshot and move the button so the arrow point is just slightly outside the centre line of the bow

That's my understanding, as when you set up the button, the tip of the arrow, for a right hander, should be a little to the left of the string, so they won't be parallel!

I only know this as I asked the same question of Derek at Perris' not so long ago.

[Ffish]

Originally Posted by DivingBirdie

Is the Long rod suppose to be parallel to the arrow...

err no, neither in the horizontal nor vertical planes.

In the horizontal, your nocking point should be about 3-4mm above the line of level. In the vertical, your centre shot should set your arrow slightly to the left of the string (if you're right handed).

So in both planes, your arrow is not parallel to the long rod.

[hollowpoint]

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[cestria]

OOPs forgot about that, sorry.

Originally Posted by pmiddl

I didnt think the long rod and arrow should be parallel when viewed from above?? Thats why we set for centreshot and move the button so the arrow point is just slightly outside the centre line of the bow

[ironmonkey]

as said before, the idea of the longrod is to get mass a long way from the riser.. or better yet, a long way from your pressure point in your grip.
since the bushing is below the grip, the best angle isnt horizontal but actually abit down (not too far down, the top-half-bottom-half balance still has to be respected)
some risers angle the longrod bushing down a little bit, have a look at this;
http://www.archeryworldcup.org/UserF...s/IMG_1181.JPG

some other risers have the longrod bushing flat or slightly angled up, its not right or wrong to have anything parallel in the vertical plane, IMO
but certainly the arrow should point abit left for centreshot in the horizontal plane

also, the knocking point might be higher than square, but if you use a big positive tiller (~6mm), this has the effect of rotating the riser downwards so it might bring it back into line, parrallel with arrow.

again, no advantage or disadvantage either way TBH
btw guys, how can i put images directly in my posts?!?

Chris

[TWIW]

Originally Posted by ironmonkey

as said before, the idea of the longrod is to get mass a long way from the riser.. or better yet, a long way from your pressure point in your grip.
since the bushing is below the grip, the best angle isnt horizontal but actually abit down (not too far down, the top-half-bottom-half balance still has to be respected)
some risers angle the longrod bushing down a little bit, have a look at this;
http://www.archeryworldcup.org/UserF...s/IMG_1181.JPG

some other risers have the longrod bushing flat or slightly angled up, its not right or wrong to have anything parallel in the vertical plane, IMO
but certainly the arrow should point abit left for centreshot in the horizontal plane

also, the knocking point might be higher than square, but if you use a big positive tiller (~6mm), this has the effect of rotating the riser downwards so it might bring it back into line, parrallel with arrow.

again, no advantage or disadvantage either way TBH
btw guys, how can i put images directly in my posts?!?

Chris

Some risers also don't have the bushing square to the centre lines either and often the long rod itself may not be straight.