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Old 23-01-06, 01:12 PM
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Does no-one here set up on the clicker? That kind of removes the guess work from it...
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Old 23-01-06, 01:33 PM
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Does no-one here set up on the clicker? That kind of removes the guess work from it...
Yes - though it took me months to get the hang of it
Big increase in control to any alternative approach.

Usual problem - archers are not taught to use the clicker properly from day one. Most GNAS coaches don't know proper use of clicker (fair comment I think Rik?). Big headache later for archers unlearning bad technique.
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Old 23-01-06, 01:41 PM
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Does no-one here set up on the clicker? That kind of removes the guess work from it...
Can you explain what you mean by this? Clickers always did my head in?
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Old 23-01-06, 03:37 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by this? Clickers always did my head in?
Quick explanation:
You set up your line at the start of the draw in the normal way. Shift attention to the clicker, draw until you can see that it's ready to go. Shift focus back to the target (you should still be pointing at the middle, otherwise you've done something wrong...), complete the draw. With increasing levels of control it's reckoned that you can cut down the "last little bit" to sub 1mm.

Advantages: you can see when you've done it wrong (no hanging around at full draw), you can use the visual feedback to help do it right...
Disadvantages: you need to learn control, but then you need to do that anyway

It's been said that using this sort of technique, you can start people out on a clicker, almost immediately - cut out the "oh you've got to wait a year or so for your draw length to stabilise" rubbish.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a quick fix. Just probably a better technique than "pull and hope it goes click". Especially for intermediate level archers. The top level ones probably have such a consistent draw length, they could do without a clicker and get reasonable results!
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Old 23-01-06, 03:43 PM
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Quick explanation:
You set up your line at the start of the draw in the normal way. Shift attention to the clicker, draw until you can see that it's ready to go. Shift focus back to the target (you should still be pointing at the middle, otherwise you've done something wrong...), complete the draw. With increasing levels of control it's reckoned that you can cut down the "last little bit" to sub 1mm.

Advantages: you can see when you've done it wrong (no hanging around at full draw), you can use the visual feedback to help do it right...
Disadvantages: you need to learn control, but then you need to do that anyway

It's been said that using this sort of technique, you can start people out on a clicker, almost immediately - cut out the "oh you've got to wait a year or so for your draw length to stabilise" rubbish.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a quick fix. Just probably a better technique than "pull and hope it goes click". Especially for intermediate level archers. The top level ones probably have such a consistent draw length, they could do without a clicker and get reasonable results!
Sounds like good practice Rik. I have yet to meet anyone who has the first clue on how to setup a clicker. So far your way looks the best and most logical ( I like logic) . I too agree we should start with clickers from day one.

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Old 23-01-06, 03:50 PM
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For a masterclass in how to use the clicker see the Oh Gyo Moon video on the Win Win? website.
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Old 23-01-06, 04:45 PM
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Does no-one here set up on the clicker? That kind of removes the guess work from it...
Yep, it does vastly increase confidence in the shot and I find that I very rarely struggle to 'get through' except when over aiming and freezing on the shot.
I'd forgotten about that until you brought it up!!
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Old 23-01-06, 08:31 PM
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Does no-one here set up on the clicker? That kind of removes the guess work from it...
Havnt tried that for years, forgot about it but will incorperate into my next practice session and feed back. cheers have some
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Old 26-01-06, 11:51 PM
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This may seem a complete stupid use for a clicker , but I use a very small rest and I use my clicker to keep the arrow on the rest. My draw length is 31.5 " @ 44lbs. My adult son started shooting 4 months ago he uses the same set up as me he was having lots of problems with his clicker and draw length. Before last weekends Portsmouth at Sherwood Archers nr Notts he got so fed up that he removed his clicker and shoot a 549 I think he came 4th. Interesting point is that in my opinion he knows what a clicker feels like. I am so used to shooting with a clicker it would give me problems with removing it anyway my arrows would fall off. From my limited experiance there is a lot of difference shooting a fita 18 or portsmouth indoors and then shooting outdoors. My grouping at 90m got better when using a clicker. 3 or 4 mm on draw length can make a big differance at 90m. We will have to wait and see !!!!!!!! NOT LONG TO REGULAR OUTDOORS
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Old 27-01-06, 12:00 AM
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doing that also stops you automatically releasing once you hear the click. you want to be efficient but not autonomous
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