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Old 14-12-07, 07:53 PM
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which sight is best?

im looking to buy my first sight and im stuck between the copper johns or the shibuya ultima carbon..which is best?
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Old 14-12-07, 08:24 PM
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Limbs: Bowtech Allegiance
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How long is a piece of string??? They're all good, it's down to your personal choice!
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Old 14-12-07, 08:26 PM
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Riser: Helix Riptide
Limbs: W&W INNO's 38# 68"
Sight: Shibuya Ultima cbn
Stabilisers: Triads
Button: Shibuya dx
Bow String: 8125 16 strand
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I cant say ive tried the copper john but i do have the shibuya ultima carbon and its a brilliant sight, fine adjustments, very light and top quality.
I would recommend it to anyone
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Old 14-12-07, 08:41 PM
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I thought I might have to buy a new sight recently, until I learnt that Copper John were going to be so good about replacing my old one (the modern ones don't break like that one did!)
http://www.archery-interchange.com/f...pper-john.html
If I had needed to replace it I might have gone for a Shibuya.

I had a look at the shibuya, and one thing I didn't like was that the windage looked to have less range of adjustment than the Copper John has, though I didn't measure it that carefully.

If money were no object, I would go for the Copper John again since I like the ANTS idea and apart from that I think it looks cool with the curved bar. Apart from the aforementioned breakage, it has seemed very solid. I'm guessing that the Copper John is a bit heavier, though its not as heavy as it looks. Not sure why more recurvers don't shoot them.

It is about £50 more though...
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Old 14-12-07, 09:02 PM
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Riser: Merlin Elite (Grey Lava)
Limbs: Border TXB 40#
Sight: Shibuya Ultima
Stabilisers: Merlin Triads
Button: Beiter
Bow String: SDM Black/Silver
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There is no weight difference between the ultima and ultima carbon, save yourself a few pounds and get the normal ultima if that's the one you decide to go for.

I have the ultima, I quite like it but would prefer an angel sight given the choice again.
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Old 15-12-07, 12:40 AM
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im looking to buy my first sight and im stuck between the copper johns or the shibuya ultima carbon..which is best?
The Sure-Loc Quest X.
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Old 15-12-07, 12:48 AM
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Riser: Riptide Helix
Limbs: 40#G3s
Sight: Shibuya dual click
Stabilisers: Riptide Triads
Button: Shibuya DX gold tip
Bow String: SDMs
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I have the Shibuya dual click, ok not what your looking at but the same company and i can say this is a solid and reliable sight which wieghs a lot less than a Copper John, which was originally built for the darkside,iirc.
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Old 15-12-07, 04:20 AM
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Riser: Hoyt UltraElite Jade
Limbs: XT3000
Sight: SureLoc & 7x Scope
Stabilisers: 34" Doinker Elite
Button: Scott Longhorn IV Red
Bow String: RedBack Strings 452x
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SureLoc Quest X by far
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Old 15-12-07, 01:45 PM
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Riser: Black Winact,Jager grip
Limbs: Winex 42#
Sight: Copperjohn with G505
Stabilisers: 31" Doinker carbon
Button: Shibuya
Bow String: 16/18 strand Majesty (R.Young)
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I went for the ANTS Copperjohn Fita. I liked the massive windage and elevation adjustments and the curved frame which lined up my iris recticule at all distances. The quality is awsome as is the backup service from America. A rock solid sight that is not as heavy as it looks and can shoot from 20 to 100 yards without moving or unbolting parts. Just slide or wind it up and down. If I were to puchase another sight I would get another Copperjohn.
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Old 15-12-07, 08:34 PM
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Riser: Inferno Helix
Limbs: W&W Winex 38lb
Sight: Sureloc Quest-X
Stabilisers: Merlin's Finest
Button: Cavalier Micro Masters
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The Sure-Loc Quest X.
wise words indeed

i posed the same question and after comparing the pros and cons i went with the sureloc based purely because i like the appearance, but im very glad i did.

its solid as a rock, no vibration at all, the adjustments are positive, precise and accurate and it weighs practically nothing.

Ive only ever played around with a copperjohn once and i was very suprised at how chunky it is, theres a hell of a lot of metal to it and it looks almost over-engineered so out of your original choices i'd pick the Ultima.

Ive never used one mind you so this is a just an opinion based on visual observation, dismiss it at will
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