Limb weight comparison Stylist / AMO

[Robin]

I need to purchse new limbs and am unlikely to get the chance to try them - have a new Inno handle and am going to get Inno limbs. Problem is I currently shoot a Stylist. Does anyone have experience of converting Stylist limb weights to AMO? I think I might have the answer but would like some input. I am shooting 42lb Stylists with 4 packers on each limb. I measured this (my prefered draw weight) at 26.25" from the button and got 37.5lb (on a spring type fishing scale). I then removed a couple of packers - leaving 2 to give me a heavier draw weight. I managed to shoot with the increased weight but would not want to go much heavier the weight at 26.25" from the button is now 38.25lb. Doing the calculation I get a similar result: 42lb minus 1.75 in of draw = 38.5lb minus a couple of packers = 37.5lb. I need to decide between 36ib limbs and 38ib limbs. I do not want to be over bowed but I do want to get similar or better sight marks. I am swaying towards 36lb Innos as even if my top end weight is correct (38.25lb) I would expect to get similar sight marks as the limbs should be faster. Any/all input much appreciated. (My draw length is 28.25" and I shoot a 68" bow.) Thanks

[GBARCH1975]

Originally Posted by Robin

I need to purchse new limbs and am unlikely to get the chance to try them - have a new Inno handle and am going to get Inno limbs. Problem is I currently shoot a Stylist. Does anyone have experience of converting Stylist limb weights to AMO? I think I might have the answer but would like some input. I am shooting 42lb Stylists with 4 packers on each limb. I measured this (my prefered draw weight) at 26.25" from the button and got 37.5lb (on a spring type fishing scale). I then removed a couple of packers - leaving 2 to give me a heavier draw weight. I managed to shoot with the increased weight but would not want to go much heavier the weight at 26.25" from the button is now 38.25lb. Doing the calculation I get a similar result: 42lb minus 1.75 in of draw = 38.5lb minus a couple of packers = 37.5lb. I need to decide between 36ib limbs and 38ib limbs. I do not want to be over bowed but I do want to get similar or better sight marks. I am swaying towards 36lb Innos as even if my top end weight is correct (38.25lb) I would expect to get similar sight marks as the limbs should be faster. Any/all input much appreciated. (My draw length is 28.25" and I shoot a 68" bow.) Thanks

Most of the Inno Limbs that I send out from the shop I work out come out bang on the weight marked on the limb, The limbs will feel slightly stiffer than those of the Stylist Limbs, mainly due to the construction/design. But they are going to be much faster in the recovery, thus more speed should be obtained. Sight marks should not get worse, but as with all recurve manufacturers, it will all depend on where they drill and tap the holes for the sight mounting. 2-3mm up or down will give a false reading on the sight mark. But I personally would not worry about sight marks unless I couldn't actually move the sight down any further to hit 90m/100yrds. If you contacted me at the shop I work at ( PM me to find out which, as I do not think this is the right place to promote one shop over another) I will actually measure the weights of different limbs on an Inno handle and try and find the right limb configuration/weight you require.

[Zeb]

Just a note of caution.
Spring scales may not be accurate enough for absolute measurements. The readings could easily be 2 pounds out.
It is best to use the same scales on the old and new limbs.
Either take your old set up to a shop and compare with shop scales, or take your own scales to the shop.

[BorderBows]

We have a german dealer that has a set of scales, and cant get a decent set. So what he does is send is scales over for the customers that are extra particular. That way he can measure the customers limbs and we tiller to his scales. This means that his scales will show the customer a direct comparison between old and new.
On the rest of the orders he takes our standard scales measurements as they are correct. but he cant compair the customers with ours. We make sure we are on the button once a week.

[bkupris]

Originally Posted by BorderBows

We have a german dealer that has a set of scales, and cant get a decent set. So what he does is send is scales over for the customers that are extra particular. That way he can measure the customers limbs and we tiller to his scales. This means that his scales will show the customer a direct comparison between old and new.
On the rest of the orders he takes our standard scales measurements as they are correct. but he cant compair the customers with ours. We make sure we are on the button once a week.

Sid

Out of curiosity where do you measure limb poundage to on your trad bows (B.D Harrier etc.)? I have a few very old recurves complete with manuals and they used to measure poundage per 28" to the back of the riser..

Sorry if this is going slightly off topic..

[WhitehartFB]

Originally Posted by BorderBows

We have a german dealer that has a set of scales, and cant get a decent set. So what he does is send is scales over for the customers that are extra particular. That way he can measure the customers limbs and we tiller to his scales. This means that his scales will show the customer a direct comparison between old and new.
On the rest of the orders he takes our standard scales measurements as they are correct. but he cant compair the customers with ours. We make sure we are on the button once a week.

What you can't buy Easton Stuff in Germany, if they are that concerned about weights then surely it would be good money spent by getting a set of digital ones.
Cheaper in the long run and they won't get lost in the post

[BorderBows]

Some dealers are not at all target related, some are not that big. Some are one man bands. Its his choice, He knows what he is on about, so he can run his company the way he wants. We dont push our ethics on our dealers. If our product is good enough, then we shouldnt need to influence things so we sell more accessories.

On the other note, We measure the 28" mark on all our bows.
26.25" from the throat of the grip and 1.75 inches to the front of the bow. so thats in short AMO.
Anything over 28" of draw, means nothing at 28". We do recomend anyone to get there finger weight if your over 28", that will help you understand how you bow performs. Its easy to make a bow that stacks, so they are all are designed to 28" then like duracel the good keep going....

[Stretch]

I think you're about in the right area. Stylist limbs are measured at 28" to the button. I shot 43lb Stylist limbs which worked out pretty similar to 38# Hoyt limbs - I'd equate that to 36# W&W/Samick limbs. (My 38# G3 and 36# Extremes clock in pretty much the same).

I did have problems with th FD curve on Winex though. I had a set of 36# limbs, they weighed 36 at 28 but at 32" to get the same draw weight as a set of 38# Hoyt G3 that weighed 36 at 28 (shooting toward minimum weight in the riser) I needed to go up 4-6lbs in marked limb weight. This isn't likely to affect you though

However, when I'm, about to drop 300 quid on limbs I'll do the driving to make sure I select a set of limbs I'm happy with. (Quality and weight!) And yup Edinburgh to Bowsports was a long trip

Stretch

[BorderBows]

well your not far from us, your actually a Local, compaired to some of our customers (tazmania, being the most out of the normal of visitors we have had)

[sambow]

Originally Posted by Stretch

I think you're about in the right area. Stylist limbs are measured at 28" to the button. I shot 43lb Stylist limbs which worked out pretty similar to 38# Hoyt limbs - I'd equate that to 36# W&W/Samick limbs. (My 38# G3 and 36# Extremes clock in pretty much the same).

I did have problems with th FD curve on Winex though. I had a set of 36# limbs, they weighed 36 at 28 but at 32" to get the same draw weight as a set of 38# Hoyt G3 that weighed 36 at 28 (shooting toward minimum weight in the riser) I needed to go up 4-6lbs in marked limb weight. This isn't likely to affect you though

However, when I'm, about to drop 300 quid on limbs I'll do the driving to make sure I select a set of limbs I'm happy with. (Quality and weight!) And yup Edinburgh to Bowsports was a long trip

Stretch

Stylist limbs are definately weighed differently NOT amo. A 40 lb stylist is a lot easier to pull than a 40lb ILF limb. The most I am comfortable with ILF is 32lbs or 34lbs absolute max. But I can comfortably draw 36lb stylist limbs. If stylist bows are measured to the button then they are probably about 4lbs different from ILF AMO limbs on the basis of 2lbs per inch.