Archery Interchange the UK Archery Forum  

Go Back   Archery Interchange the UK Archery Forum > The Shooting Line > Recurve Bow: Discussion/Q&A

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-08, 11:19 PM
pHz's Avatar
pHz pHz is offline
the teach
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: merlin elite
Limbs: merlin elite 36# (39#)
Sight: AGF safari / beiter
Stabilisers: spigarelli / merlin
Button: shibuya DX / spig ZT
Bow String: SDM strings BCY8125 (18)
Arrows: Xpert 820 / XX751913

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: flatness
Posts: 2,407
how long ?

is your shot cycle from setup to release ?

i think i know many good (thanks moo-mop ! ) archers have amazingly consistent times but does it matter how long that time is ?

is there any correlation between (consistency of) shot cycle time and level of archery achieved ?

slainte : rob
__________________
individually we are one drop - together we are an ocean (ryunosuke satoro) - http://www.oobac-archers.co.uk
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote


  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-08, 11:45 PM
hooktonboy's Avatar
In the Red
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Winact
Limbs: Border Tx
Sight: Spig Grand Prix
Stabilisers: Cartel A/C
Button: Shibuya DX
Bow String: D75
Arrows: 880 Nav

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wrexham
Posts: 596
If you watch the videos, Park, Sung-Hyun is absolutely consistent - think the whole sequence is exactly five seconds. (or could be 4, can't remember). I could watch it all day though.
__________________
Just as one door closes, another one slams in your face.
Cymru am byth!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-08, 12:20 AM
King Custard's Avatar
In the Gold
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Hoyt Nexus
Limbs: KG APEX 66x40lb
Sight: Arten Olympic
Stabilisers: Arten custom carbons
Button: BEITER
Bow String: 20str 452x - Bieter nock
Arrows: ACE's -X10's

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London UK
Posts: 1,056
mine is around 8 to 9 seconds from lifting the bow to loose.....but then I am currently spending extra time checking many different things before aiming.
On my best days- when everything is flowing nicely it's nearer 6 seconds.

I've found that anything longer than around 9 seconds just wont hit where I want no matter how hard I try to make it happen - for me the set-up is obviously wrong and needs to be re-started. After 9 seconds I am stressed, frustrated, impatient and find myself 'just wanting to let go'...it's not a strength issue, but after 9 seconds I begin to lose commitment to the shot.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-08, 04:28 AM
Tropicalshot's Avatar
In the Red
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Areotec
Limbs: Hoyt G/Medalist Carbon
Sight: Killion/Titan Scope
Stabilisers: cartel Carbon
Button: cavalier
Bow String: Chilli String dyna 97
Arrows: redline 520 (BANNED)

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Townsville
Posts: 433
mines between 6 and 7 seconds, and as consistant as i can get them,

but you know that perfect groove you can sometimes get into and every thing just works shot after shot, well i lost the key to that room so like everyones i go through a mental check list
__________________
ULTRA BLACK (TM) Aiming for Staff shooter status
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-08, 07:56 AM
Jay.g's Avatar
In the Blue
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Hoyt Jade NeXus
Limbs:
Sight: Shibuya Ultima Red
Stabilisers: Full SOMA CEX2
Button: Shibuya DX
Bow String: Bling Strings 452X 22 strand
Arrows: CX Nanos 630

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Island
Posts: 286
6-7 seconds.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-08, 10:00 AM
It's an X
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Poole uk
Posts: 4,347
Often,if the time to make a shot varies, the variation happens at the stage just before release. Coming through the clicker can be smooth or ragged. Top archers are better at contolling that section and their times show how controlled they are.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-05-08, 05:50 PM
wanshu's Avatar
Domo Arigato
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Axis/Smoke chrome Connie
Limbs: Border TXB's 44lb
Sight: Arc100sx/Arten10zone
Stabilisers: Triads;-) Fuse :-)
Button: Hole.
Bow String: Spaghetti special. SDM 8125
Arrows: Triple 400's/Nav FMJ

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Red Rose County
Posts: 372
Quote:
Originally Posted by hooktonboy View Post
If you watch the videos, Park, Sung-Hyun is absolutely consistent - think the whole sequence is exactly five seconds. (or could be 4, can't remember). I could watch it all day though.
This is the timing I try to shoot at with minimal pauses inbetween each arrow, just a feeling of calm and comfortable shooting.
My best scores seem to occur when the body and mind mechanics work well together without actually thinking about them. This when it does happen enables good archery scores.

Spending a lifetime over each shot IMHO can easily become almost a paralysis, often made worse by over analysis.
Good archers from what I've seen so far, appear to make it all look very fluid and natural, which is obviously after years of preperation and practice with purpose. Emulating the good bits (good timing) minimising the bad bits is what we stive to do each time we shoot.
__________________
"If you can't be good, be careful and if you can't be careful, buy a pram"
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-08, 12:31 AM
hooktonboy's Avatar
In the Red
  • Recurve
  • Compound
  • Traditional
Setup
Riser: Winact
Limbs: Border Tx
Sight: Spig Grand Prix
Stabilisers: Cartel A/C
Button: Shibuya DX
Bow String: D75
Arrows: 880 Nav

Compound Script currently under construction
Traditional Script currently under construction
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wrexham
Posts: 596
Quote:
Originally Posted by wanshu View Post
This is the timing I try to shoot at with minimal pauses inbetween each arrow, just a feeling of calm and comfortable shooting.
..........
Spending a lifetime over each shot IMHO can easily become almost a paralysis
Agree absolutely. In fact I try to have this "ticking" somewhere in my mind as it also helps to clear out the other rubbish. If I've relaxed properly then the clicker will go on "one thousand and (4=click) - almost always the cleanest releases and the best shots. It sort of goes like this

One thousand and one - set-up and raise bow arm

One thousand and two - draw to transfer/holding

One thousand and three - final aiming

One thousand (expansion) and click!

If I've filled my mind with other junk I can easily get to 8/9 seconds, tension creeps in, the release will be awful - and the arrows usually low left. Must stop doing that
__________________
Just as one door closes, another one slams in your face.
Cymru am byth!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
got my new long bow teddybear Traditional Archery: Discussion/Q&A 4 08-02-08 06:51 PM
which long rod ?? Zanda Compound Bow: Discussion/Q&A 37 22-08-06 02:47 PM
long rod elastoplastscavenger Glossary 0 07-05-06 11:19 PM
long rod gwynn Glossary 3 05-05-05 06:37 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Archery-Interchange.com © D. Renton